Brendan Rodgers

[kingfunk]

I think too much is being made of what he said. No player should be surprised or disappointed by it.

they are men ffs. What will it have done? Hurt their feelings? Rubbish. Rodgers is right and we will see a much improver liverpool against le arse for it.

[Red_Polo]

English media whore and melty faced barrowboy Redknapp

FLMAO

[Shaggy]

http://lfcts.tumblr.com/post/41779236254

Tony Barrett's blog in today's Times

[Lecter]

What next? On-pitch bollockings at half-time perhaps?

Come on you know it makes sense

[Shaggy]

So basically all the previous LFC managers who've publicly had a pop at the players have wound up being sacked in no time!

Good luck, Bren.

[BootRoom]

His comments on Borini and Allen are laughable.

Totally unnecessary to go all out in the media.

Rodgers talked himself into a corner when he first went on the attack immediately after the Oldham game, and has thought to himself: "uh oh, I've been slagging off the physical prowess of the the young players, but I've spent big money on two of them so I'll have to at least try to atone for that by coming up with some laugable ****e to defend them, no matter how stupid it makes me look".

[Gibbo]

Phil Brown

[kingfunk]

Best fans in the world.

[Neil Young]

So basically all the previous LFC managers who've publicly had a pop at the players have wound up being sacked in no time!

Good luck, Bren.

Although I can't help wondering if there aren't examples where LFC managers have publicly criticised the players and then not got sacked within weeks. But we don't remember them.

Even if there were, the approach certainly doesn't feel right to me.

[Vermilion]

Best fans in the world.

Oh come on, the manager can crticise the players in public, but fans cant criticise the manager on a football forum ?

It doesn't mean people aren't behind him, it's just about discussing what people think he gets wrong now and then, isn't it ? Same as discussing a great tactical decision or team performance he gets right.

So long as it's not abusive what's the problem ?

edit: It's not like we're fighting in the stands.

[Kenneth]

Rodgers talked himself into a corner when he first went on the attack immediately after the Oldham game, and has thought to himself: "uh oh, I've been slagging off the physical prowess of the the young players, but I've spent big money on two of them so I'll have to at least try to atone for that by coming up with some laugable ****e to defend them, no matter how stupid it makes me look".

whereas I understood him not to be saying that players lacked physical prowess, rather their mental determination and mental stremgth was actually the problem. And highlighting examples of borini and Allen, who people might highlight as being weak, not being physically weak was supporting this. I.e. The current weakness is mental not physical. But maybe your lazy more critical interpretation is correct.

[dom9]

So basically all the previous LFC managers who've publicly had a pop at the players have wound up being sacked in no time!

Good luck, Bren.

He makes it sound like they were sacked as a result of doing that, which is of course claptrap.

They were sacked because results were not up scratch. And if all three of those managers had really lost the dressing room, it would not have been solely because of those public remarks, but a process which would have been in place before and after those remarks.

If there is a parallel at all, perhaps Barrett is suggesting that Rodgers has already lost the dressing room. Otherwise it's just a pretty meaningless observation.

[Shaggy]

He makes it sound like they were sacked as a result of doing that, which is of course claptrap.

They were sacked because results were not up scratch. And if all three of those managers had really lost the dressing room, it would not have been solely because of those public remarks, but a process which would have been in place before and after those remarks.

If there is a parallel at all, perhaps Barrett is suggesting that Rodgers has already lost the dressing room. Otherwise it's just a pretty meaningless observation.

Clearly not solely because of the public criticisms, no. No-one has suggested that.

Disagree it's meaningless - he points out players lost faith in the manager after the manager had publicly criticised them, the wheels came off, results got worse = manager sacked. Whether that's just a convenient excuse for under-performing/**** footballers is another issue.

Time will tell whether Rodgers' gamble has paid off. It's definitely a gamble no matter what anyone's view on it, IMO.

[Kenneth]

These other managers, and particularly Roy, hit out at players when they were under lots of pressure themselves so heading for a sacking. Players knew the managers were under pressure and could be sacked so had no incentive to take notice and respect the criticism. I don't think Brendan is in this position.

[Shaggy]

That's a fair point. Souness was under huge pressure, likewise Rafa after a few great years and it all went tits up. Whereas Hodgson was just ****ing useless and up against it from very early on.

You're right, I think, that Rodgers isn't as far down Sack Avenue as the rest.