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    Originally posted by Rich View Post
    The problems we have are still there regardless of a 5-0 scoreline.

    We were fantastic yesterday and goes to show how much better we are as an attacking force when both Suarez and Sturridge are on the pitch together.

    Our defence was hardly tested - and didn't have many dangerous high balls to compete against.

    If we can sort out the glaring defensive problems we've had ALL season in the summer with a few quality additions then we should have a real chance of a top 4 finish next season.
    I think you can add much of last season to that too. Similar problems too - we don't give away a huge number of chances but those we do seem to be converted a lot of the time.
    "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
    -- William Blake

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      Originally posted by Alex View Post
      £3m journymen players are not what we need. We are not West Ham. I'd much rather we go the way we are now, adding quality to the side when we can (Sturridge and Coutinho recently) and building like that.

      The things that you are suggesting will make us finish 6th maybe, but we won't get higher with that philisophy IMO.

      We are growing slowly, and that can only mean we are going to be stronger for it.
      i wasnt thinking that we would benefit from a few old stragglers, more the michu or sissoko 3m bargains.
      i would still want us to be adding the odd better player when they became available, but i wouldnt want us to be spending 10m+ on 'lads with potential' we've seen plenty of these not work out
      removing all the weak links makes us stronger

      too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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        My apologies, I read that as you wanting to sign players like Kevin Nolan for some reason
        *Except Michael, who died.

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          Originally posted by Alex View Post
          My apologies, I read that as you wanting to sign players like Kevin Nolan for some reason
          yeh, obviously get nolan in.
          removing all the weak links makes us stronger

          too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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            Whilst I've been pissing around with our transfer spends, I have come across our transfer expenditure under Rodgers: £59,488,000. Now granted, this is not an *exact* science and is most certainly up for debate, but the market value of the players we have brought in is actually £65,736,000.

            So Rodgers - and FSG - are true to their word about getting value for money, having a price for a player and not exceeding that and negotiating (go Ayre!) the best price for us.

            On the flip side, we have let £63,976,000 worth of talent leave this club for:

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              Originally posted by Muddled View Post
              Whilst I've been pissing around with our transfer spends, I have come across our transfer expenditure under Rodgers: £59,488,000. Now granted, this is not an *exact* science and is most certainly up for debate, but the market value of the players we have brought in is actually £65,736,000.

              So Rodgers - and FSG - are true to their word about getting value for money, having a price for a player and not exceeding that and negotiating (go Ayre!) the best price for us.

              On the flip side, we have let £63,976,000 worth of talent leave this club for:

              Or to put it another way, we paid £63,976,000 for £9,196,000 of talent. You sometimes have to wonder if some the people doing our deals are friends of 'Arry and Fat Sam.
              Never knowingly optimistic

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                I assumed the £63m figure came from their 'market value' at the time and not what was paid or received.

                That not right?
                If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                  Originally posted by RedReet View Post
                  I assumed the £63m figure came from their 'market value' at the time and not what was paid or received.

                  That not right?
                  I thought it was what we paid for them.
                  Never knowingly optimistic

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                    Originally posted by Bryncoch View Post
                    I thought it was what we paid for them.
                    I know, that's what you said.
                    If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                      I don't think Rogers has the foggiest when it comes to tactics, particularly defensive tactics.

                      We will end up like Keegan's Newcastle is we are not careful.

                      He needs to get our defence sorted first and foremost. Mostly the same players Rafa had, why can they all of a sudden not defend to save their lives?
                      YNWA

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                        Originally posted by Havors View Post
                        I don't think Rogers has the foggiest when it comes to tactics, particularly defensive tactics.

                        We will end up like Keegan's Newcastle is we are not careful.

                        He needs to get our defence sorted first and foremost. Mostly the same players Rafa had, why can they all of a sudden not defend to save their lives?
                        maybe comes from having the full backs pressing forward so much. we get caught short handed with a sudden break. when finnan and riise pushed up we usually had two deeper midfielers to intercept through balls and help stifle attacks.

                        **** knows what the excuse would be for the lack of organisation and concentration is, but im sure brendan has one.
                        removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                        too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                          Originally posted by baitman View Post
                          maybe comes from having the full backs pressing forward so much. we get caught short handed with a sudden break. when finnan and riise pushed up we usually had two deeper midfielers to intercept through balls and help stifle attacks.

                          **** knows what the excuse would be for the lack of organisation and concentration is, but im sure brendan has one.
                          I think that to date he has been pretty honest in his assessment of the defensive performances on those occasions that it's gone bdaly wrong. I don't recall him making 'excuses'. But feel free to provide some evidence to the contrary.
                          Oh I don't know.

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                            Defending set pieces would be a start - shambolic this season in particular.
                            Substance > Style

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                              Originally posted by ronanm View Post
                              Defending set pieces would be a start - shambolic this season in particular.
                              I tend to think that a couple of our players are particularly poor at it in general. I'd single out Sktel and Johnson (who I otherwise think is excellent). Do we man to man mark? It looks to me like people have runners behind them too often - so either bat starting positions for zones or are **** at following people.
                              "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                              -- William Blake

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                                Originally posted by Havors View Post
                                I don't think Rogers has the foggiest when it comes to tactics, particularly defensive tactics.

                                We will end up like Keegan's Newcastle is we are not careful.

                                He needs to get our defence sorted first and foremost. Mostly the same players Rafa had, why can they all of a sudden not defend to save their lives?
                                When someone has a lot to say you have to wonder if some of it just goes in one ear and straight out of the other. Some of us struggle sometimes to take him seriously, the players are with him every day and it wouldn't surprise me if some of them tune him out sometimes.
                                Never knowingly optimistic

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