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You sir are a *******. I doff my cap to you.
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Proper Muppets if they are briefing the press. They keep him they lose any support they currently have with the fans.Comment
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Maybe rodgers position won't be on the review meeting agenda because Rodgers will be sacked before the meeting even starts!!!
Perhaps the agenda item "Brendans position as manager" will be replaced by "New managerial candidates"Comment
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If there is any truth in the leak to gauge opinion, it does raise a few question marks. I know they're over in Boston, but the internet is pretty much alive with angry Liverpool fans. It's pretty obvious what the chat is and the bigger question is, do we really want our owners to be swayed by the vocal majority?
Whilst I'm still seething about the defeat (and probably will be tomorrow too, as I will have to put with office 'banter') I'm kinda glad that FSG haven't rushed out today and sacked him. I was hoping they would take stock of the situation. If they are considering replacing him with Klopp (for example), Klopp will want his focus on the cup final. Any conversation would be held after that and I wouldn't want FSG to sack somebody without a credible replacement pretty much lined up.Comment
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Brendan Rodgers warned Liverpool's poor season CANNOT happen again - and that changes are coming
By Dave Maddock
If Rodgers can’t accept the changes – and they could yet include the *appointment of a director of football – he will be asked to quietly step down
If Brendan Rodgers has been given firm assurances over his future, then they come with an even firmer caveat.
The Liverpool manager may have received confirmation that the club’s US owners will not hit the panic button, and their backing for him has not changed despite the 6-1 humiliation at Stoke.
Yet, along with that message, came another crucial one that will determine the direction in which the club will head as they contemplate a season of disappointment.
The word from the Americans is clear.
This season cannot happen again, so not only will there be a review, with their manager asked some brutally direct questions about his role in the failure, but there will be no sense of Rodgers being asked to simply continue in the same manner as this year.
There will be major changes, a “beyond robust” examination of the structures and cultures currently in place at Anfield - demanding alteration to ensure there is no repeat.
At present, the mood within the ownership group – made up of chairman Tom Werner, principal shareholder John Henry and director Michael Gordon – is those changes will stop short of the manager.
Gordon will direct the review and ask Rodgers to buy into not only the long-term strategy, but also deliver firm guarantees of rejoining Europe’s elite in the Champions League.
In short, they will gauge if he can meet his targets. It is here the manager’s future will be determined.
If Rodgers can’t accept the changes – and they could yet include the *appointment of a director of football – he will be asked to quietly step down.
Likewise, the same message will be offered if he feels he can’t work within the club’s very closely defined transfer and wage policies which emphasise homegrown talent.
So far, all the indications are that the Ulsterman IS prepared to buy into that philosophy.
The review will get underway in earnest by the first week of June, when Rodgers is likely to travel to Boston to meet Gordon face to face, and sit down with him and Henry - and possibly Werner - to thrash out the changes.
Until then, the Americans will keep their powder dry.
They have made NO approach for any other manager, and will not make any enquiries, even if it means losing out on the available Jurgen Klopp.
The plan remains the same – Rodgers will continue into next season unless the review makes his position untenable.
It promises to be a pivotal month for Liverpool.
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Which is admirable but the philosophy doesn't seem to be working lads.Sack swinging like Dub-D40 on a door hingeComment
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Penisery.3rd place. Worst champions ever.
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So "beyond robust" is a direct quote from someone? The only one in the piece. I reckon it's a made up quote.Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom-2 years1year0.5 yearsComment
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Yup. The whole thing needs overhauling top to bottom.Originally posted by wiw View Post3rd place. Worst champions ever.Comment
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I also think it underminds the importance of being the Liverpool manager and the importance the fans attach to it. They may want to dilute that by putting in a DOF or something similar but the fans won't see it like that. If they keep him on he is going to get absolutely pelters as soon as we hit any kind of rocky patch next season. Can't see this ending well at all.Sack swinging like Dub-D40 on a door hingeComment
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There's not a single scoop here.
There's only one thing for sure, nobody knows anything.Modifying post.Comment
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Telegraph article looks much worse, pretty much says we are doing nothing!
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This will make the Evans, Houllier joint manager venture seem like a master stroke. Seems like FSG are determined to lower expectations and go with the Randy Learner how to run a football club model.Comment
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A 'beyond robust' examination of the structure. Maybe they are talking about the new stand?Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
I still think he's a goner, nothing I read in the media for the next while is going to change that.Modifying post.Comment
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Liverpool insist Stoke debacle will not cost Brendan Rodgers his job
Club's plans still hinge on crucial meeting between under-fire manager Rodgers and FSG president Mike Gordon
By Chris Bascombe
7:50PM BST 25 May 2015
Liverpool are adamant that Sunday's horrific defeat to Stoke will not impact on Brendan Rodgers' future as he prepares for talks on how to revive the club next season.
Anfield officials have indicated Rodgers' position is unchanged regardless of the severity of after a 6-1 defeat on the final day of the Premier League campaign. The Liverpool manager suggested he would leave if the club's American owners, Fenway Sports Group, have lost faith in him, but privately it is evident Rodgers does not think that is the case.
Although he still faces a critical meeting with FSG President Mike Gordon, the suggestion from within the club is the manager's position will not be on the agenda in those talks.
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It now remains to be seen how those conversations go to establish how Rodgers can fix what has gone so horribly wrong since last August. He will still have plenty of explaining to do for finishing in a poor sixth and having missed all the pre-season targets.
Rodgers has already held preliminary conversations with Gordon in the last seven days, although that was prior to the debacle at the Britannia Stadium. The Northern Irishman felt emboldened enough to state he was "150 per cent" sure he would remain in charge before the weekend.
Such was the ineptitude of the display in Stoke, however, he accepted after the game that his position would be questioned.
Liverpool's principal owner John W Henry has effectively deferred all the major strategic decisions at Anfield to Gordon over recent years. The strong working relationship Rodgers enjoys with Gordon will give him the confidence he will have the opportunity to correct the errors of the last eight months.
Liverpool accept something must change at the club ahead of next season – precisely what will be established in what is being described as a "thorough and robust" review. It would seem, however, plenty has already been pre-determined. They need new players and have already started the recruitment process, with Rodgers central to those discussions.
Danny Ings and James Milner should be the first new arrivals, both seeing out their contracts at Burnley and Manchester City respectively.
Despite suggestions that a director of football will be appointed, the club is also ruling that out – as they are major changes to the much-criticised transfer committee. That means the only visible alterations of note could be to Rodgers' backroom team, which in essence would be cosmetic.
There is no doubt there remains a degree of sympathy for Rodgers for the problems he has encountered this season, but equally the speed with which performances have deteriorated since a home defeat by Manchester United in March have put him in an extremely vulnerable position as he seeks more time.
If he needs to retain the trust of the club's owners, it is a case a regaining it from the supporters, especially those who witnessed the first-half capitulation on Sunday. It was Liverpool's worst defeat since a 7-2 loss to Spurs in 1963, but it was the timing of it – the culmination of a miserable series of results and performances – that has corroded faith in the current Anfield set-up.
Rodgers has plenty of mitigating factors at his disposal. He has alluded to the loss of Luis Suarez and Daniel Sturridge throughout the campaign, and recently spoke about the "distractions" he has had to contend with.
This was a reference to the ongoing saga surrounding Raheem Sterling's contract. Rodgers has also had to deal with the imminent departure of Steven Gerrard – although that was ultimately presented as a mutual decision after Liverpool delayed attempts to keep their captain – while the introduction and assimilation of so many new signings last summer has had a detrimental impact on performances. Rodgers shares the responsibility for those deals with other members of the recruitment team.
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Where opinion will be divided is whether Rodgers has managed to get the best out of those at his disposal, regardless of the loss of his strikers.
Liverpool defeated the recently deposed champions Manchester City by playing an exciting brand of football, but the same group of players saw their FA Cup run end having been outplayed against Aston Villa, a side fighting against relegation.
They also took just one point from a possible 12 against Hull City, Crystal Palace, West Bromwich Albion and Stoke City. Had they won those games they would have finished fourth. Even QPR were only beaten by a last-minute winner from Steven Gerrard. Liverpool's end of season form was more akin to the days prior to Rodgers' appointment at the end of Kenny Dalglish's second period in charge, with many referencing the worst performances under Roy Hodgson.
It remains to be seen whether Liverpool's steadfast defence of Rodgers extends beyond his meeting with Gordon. He suggested last week that this meeting was no different to any yearly appraisal. That is clearly not the case, given such conversations are far more desirable when you have just finished second – coming as close as any manager in 25 years to winning the title – than when you have come sixth with a team that has just delivered the club's worst result in 52 years.
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