Brendan Rodgers

[Fredo]

I'm not sure what is the issue really. We turned it around after a dreadful start last season and started to get our swagger back, then everything started to go wrong after the defeat at home against United.

Prior to that, we looked unstoppable, so Rodgers deserves at least some credit for that. What happened afterwards is a mystery and the mistakes seems to have cropped in and he's been constantly tweaking since then without finding the right balance.

[Buzzo]

For all this talk of philosophy - I don't see one correlating between a formation or playing style and signings to supplement it.

With Rafa (Oops I did it), you could see what he was trying to achieve with most of the signings he made, even if they looked crap on paper. Riera brought balance to the left side for example. You could see him putting his squad together thoughtfully, and within some pretty huge restrictions too (without going into that).

Brendan has everything Rafa didn't. Time. Funds. Owners who back him. Less pressure (because of the downgrading of expectation). He has everything set up for him to make a success of it, but he doesn't have the ability to do it, his methods don't work.

You are preaching to the choir here

Brendan should have gone last season. He would have at pretty much every other top club. Having backed him we are now in a bizarre hinterland between what we currently see on the pitch, and an unlikely promise of better days to come.

[Roboklopp]

Again I'm having to miss a match tonight cos of prior arrangements & again I really don't give a **** at all. Last time I felt like this as under Bodge's tenure.

[Exiled_red]

Yeah I know a sacking won't come before Christmas - it just wouldn't make sense. As for signs of improvement, I think he's running out of tricks. For someone with such an ingrained philosophy, he seems remarkably content to ditch it at the first sign of trouble and wing a formation to cover his own back.

...and the excuses! Oh god the excuses!

I wonder if the critisism of his sides ability to defend has caught up with him. For the last couple of years he/we have been heavily by pundits, reporters and fans for our inability to defend I wonder if he has thought over the summer that he really needs to get this sorted and as a result has abandoned the ideas that worked previously to try and make us more solid, but obviously things haven't worked out because he can't set up teams to play that way.

[Harv]

One thing I don't get is that Payet at West Ham and Ayew for Swansea turn up and hit the ground running for their respective new teams ,

But our new forwrd thinking signings look totally out of sorts and have had no form at all on the pitch. IS it always to do with signing for a bigger club or just how we integrate them all and confuse them with being able to play in multiple positions.

Seems we have done it with Markovic and Lallana last year seeing them at wing backs putting effort in and looking average and last week with Ings and Firmino playing wide.

Ever since Suarez left the manager seems unwilling to play two strikers up top when everyone on here can see that it should benefit the team.

Still think the managers way out is to press teams in their half because this turgid football at the back with Mig being involved is never getting us anywhere.

The worst thing is that Ayew is a massive LFC fan and was absolutely desperate to come here on a free. He probably would have played for next to nothing. He looked great at the last two world cups and has very consistent stats in France.

[Lecter]

It does kind of feel like Brendan is always leaving a few paths open for potential future excuses.

A lot of his quotes seem to be excuse orientated, which surely rubs off onto the players.

So tonight we have the 'rested players' excuse. Last week we had the 'lack of prep time' excuse. We are currently AGAIN getting the 'period of transition' excuse.

Basically, enough with the excuses

In the summer we had the coaches werent good enough and the transfer committee wasnt either

[Fierce]

The worst thing is that Ayew is a massive LFC fan and was absolutely desperate to come here on a free. He probably would have played for next to nothing. He looked great at the last two world cups and has very consistent stats in France.

We'll buy him in the summer mate

Sure, it'll cost a few quid more, but he'll be Premiership proven by then

[Lecter]

What if Rodgers thinks that the two partnerships Skrtel/Lovren and Sakho/Toure are the right units to test?

If that is the reasoning then I would seriously worry about his lack of knowledge about the game

[Harv]

Forgetting what we look like when we play football, there is no way that the manager will be sacked after just 5 games considering the investment in the summer

Objectively, neither would I want him to. I don't think he'll be here next season, perhaps not even next year, but the time to get rid was in the summer. He's here for the immediate future IMO, rightly or wrongly

Sometimes though you just have to realise you've made a mistake and cut your losses.

We're at that stage now. The players clearly don't believe in him or just don't know what the **** they're supposed to be doing now.

[Lecter]

One thing I don't get is that Payet at West Ham and Ayew for Swansea turn up and hit the ground running for their respective new teams ,

But our new forwrd thinking signings look totally out of sorts and have had no form at all on the pitch. IS it always to do with signing for a bigger club or just how we integrate them all and confuse them with being able to play in multiple positions.

Seems we have done it with Markovic and Lallana last year seeing them at wing backs putting effort in and looking average and last week with Ings and Firmino playing wide.

Ever since Suarez left the manager seems unwilling to play two strikers up top when everyone on here can see that it should benefit the team.

Still think the managers way out is to press teams in their half because this turgid football at the back with Mig being involved is never getting us anywhere.

Its clearly nothing to do with the manager

Its clearly the psychology of joining a "big club", adjusting to life on Merseyside, the weather, the signs of the Zodiac currently not in our favour etc....

[Lecter]

Forgetting what we look like when we play football, there is no way that the manager will be sacked after just 5 games considering the investment in the summer

Objectively, neither would I want him to. I don't think he'll be here next season, perhaps not even next year, but the time to get rid was in the summer. He's here for the immediate future IMO, rightly or wrongly

If it was my decision, I'd fire him asap. FSG wont do that but I would

He aint going to turn it around, yes we've spent money but you might as well get someone in let them have the time between now and the window to assess the squad so they can bring who they might need in January

Leaving it longer makes things more panicked in January

[Lecter]

It won't happen mate. We are not rationally analysing things, rather speaking from the heart out of frustration. With that in mind, Rodgers will need to turn this around pretty quickly or at least show some definite signs of improvement. He's done it to an extent last year and we were heading in the right direction.

We may have been heading in the right direction but he changed tact again in the summer

It was a complete u-turn

We have done more u-turns in Rodgers time I am surprised he hasnt met himself coming round the corner

[Buzzo]

Surely it will soon be in vogue to pillage Leicester City, paying over the odds for their own brand of 'prem proven'?

I predict huge bids for Mahrez and Vardy in the summer. We'll probably pay about £65millions for them - well, we will once the negotiation team have hard balled the **** out of the deal for a few months.

[Alex]

Believe me, its with heavy heart i want us to lose, but I've properly done my arse with him. He needs to go and he needs to go now. Not in 10-20 games by which time our season will be well and truly ****ed.

Eh?

I dont care who the manager/players/owners are, but I dont think ive ever wanted us to lose a game. People always use the phrase 'No player is bigger than the club' well the same applies for the manager too.

You dont actually want us to lose do you?

[Chris]

Surely it will soon be in vogue to pillage Leicester City, paying over the odds for their own brand of 'prem proven'?

I predict huge bids for Mahrez and Vardy in the summer. We'll probably pay about £65millions for them - well, we will once the negotiation team have hard balled the **** out of the deal for a few months.

As witty as ever.