****ing hell - so this is why the rest of the forum is so ****ing quiet 
I hate international breaks
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Originally posted by The Erectile Banana View Post
Sure but that's why I mention the ones he kept. The pattern is he kept some and not others. The issue is why. It's not like all those he kept ended up succeeding. So, assuming he's a largely rational man, there must have been reasons.
The point is there are plenty of other explanations for the data you have selected. You're using it to fit a pattern that you have also selected.
Like you say, there were mitigating circumstances in some cases and for all we know any or all of the decisions may have been forced on him by the board/financial situation or by the players themselves. Perhaps he would have kept at least some of them, ditching players instead who were even lower down the pecking order but these ones were on big wages and the club's increasingly parlous financial situation under the two crooks required him to shift them on if he wanted to get better players in.
It's not like any of the ones you mention have really shone since leaving the club. Let's hope Bellamy does.
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Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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Originally posted by PTP View Post****ing hell - so this is why the rest of the forum is so ****ing quiet
I hate international breaks
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Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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All true. I'd like to see Rafa's knitting patterns.Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
Sure but that's why I mention the ones he kept. The pattern is he kept some and not others. The issue is why. It's not like all those he kept ended up succeeding. So, assuming he's a largely rational man, there must have been reasons.
The point is there are plenty of other explanations for the data you have selected. You're using it to fit a pattern that you have also selected.
Like you say, there were mitigating circumstances in some cases and for all we know any or all of the decisions may have been forced on him by the board/financial situation or by the players themselves. Perhaps he would have kept at least some of them, ditching players instead who were even lower down the pecking order but these ones were on big wages and the club's increasingly parlous financial situation under the two crooks required him to shift them on if he wanted to get better players in.
It's not like any of the ones you mention have really shone since leaving the club. Let's hope Bellamy does.
I think Bellamy will drive on and make a big impact.A humble guy with healthy desire.Comment
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Originally posted by The Erectile Banana View PostAll true. I'd like to see Rafa's knitting patterns.
I think Bellamy will drive on and make a big impact. Yes he'll go a fairway and I think can make a good pitch for being in the starting eleven. Of course he'll need to iron out some of his past troubles and putt them behind him.
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Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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Rafa couldn't just go out and buy a £20m player his first seasons. He had to first sign a much cheaper player and then sell him making a profit and then buy a more expensive player and then sell him and then he could buy the £20m player.
He didn't have any control over the Academy until after he signed his five year deal. That meant that he had to sign every player for the first team. He couldn't fill up places in the squad with the rubbish we had at the Academy.
That is two key points to understand why he sold and signed so many players.
He couldn't as I said buy a 20m player straight away. He couldn't afford that with around £7m-£8m net transfer budget his first seasons.
When it comes down him talking to the media then you must remember that we had two owners that hired two PR agencies in the civil war against him. Remember that Purslow many many times was in the same room as him and watched over him. Rafa couldn't say what he wanted, not a chance.
Before Purslow we had Parry who didn't give a **** about what orders Rafa gave him. He did things his own way. The Barry saga being a great example of that.Stop the cyberhate
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What do you think Rafa's bad points were Arn?*Except Michael, who died.Comment
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Thats a good point to be fair Arn! and one that alot of people including myself wont have really given much thought! I still think rafa had alot of flaws but maybe these points did restrict him in what he could do!jc - after the live score and the best Soccer Blog onlineComment
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Originally posted by Neil Young View Post Yes he'll go a fairway and I think can make a good pitch for being in the starting eleven. Of course he'll need to iron out some of his past troubles and putt them behind him.
He might have a few sub-par performances until he becomes accustomed to Kenny's playing style, but as long as he doesn't worry about them becoming an albatross around his neck I can see this trnasfer being a major winner.A humble guy with healthy desire.Comment
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The crucial point about the media is that they turned against Benitez early on, years before Purslow arrived.Originally posted by Arn View Post.
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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Yep, I think that was mainly because he had the temerity to actually win the Champions League before challenging for the title. Obviously this meant he was prioritising Europe and deliberately neglecting the mighty Premier League. Neglect the league at your peril!!!Originally posted by Neil Young View PostThanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’Comment
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Bad pointsOriginally posted by Alex View Post
Well, he actually have some bad points. He is very very stubborn and want to do things his own way and it is his own way only. Us playing 4-2-3-1 for example more or less in every game made us easy to read. We played great and often very attacking football but some of it was because the opposition let us do it. They knew that we didn't had that many creative players or quick players so sitting back against us wasn't a big risk.
He is a better manager in Europe than the PL. I would say if a club want European success then they won't find a better manager out there than Rafa.
Another bad point is that he often rotated players just for the sake of it. If you look at Lucas for example then one season he very often took him after exactly 60 minutes. Why did he do that after 60 minutes so often? It is actually true. Check LFC history and Lucas playing time in the games his first seasons. That points to that he would do that sub even if another sub would have been better.Stop the cyberhate
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Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
I think it was because he was too wary of British reporters and didn't make enough friends in his first season. He needed a charm offensive and to give the reporters a headline, a joke, a story. If his English was a problem in the early press conferences then he needed to do more one-to-one interviews. Give journalists stories and they're happy (sorry, that sounds a very Arnish statement but I think it's valid).
Of course you can't please them all but it seems to me he didn't please enough of them early on. That's the fault of the press office, not him.
And then we can throw in some old-fashioned xenophobia and quite possibly the machinations of a certain repugnant but powerful, red-nosed individual too..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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Johnson certainly wasnt a 'big mac' and some of rafa's 2nd or 3rd choice targets werent - there were quite a few who one would describe as 'big macs' though. Johnson is one possible example that can be used, but there are plenty of others.Originally posted by Neil Young View PostComment
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It's been ages since we've had a good Rafa debate.
I just wish he'd been here when FSG took charge. Don't get me wrong - I like having Dalglish back - but I do think Rafa is a better manager and part of me thinks 'what if'.
He'll be back one day though, I'm sure of it.Comment
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