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    Originally posted by peterbread View Post
    Could Trent’s low percentage be because of the types of passes he attempts and is likely given license to attempt. Not many fullbacks can make those big diagonals or rip it down the line to get Mo away. He’s not really been a normal fullback for a few seasons now. It’s part of the risk reward with him.

    If he does go it will be interesting to see what the approach will be and how the balance of the team looks if they go with the more traditional style of fullback again.


    You could make that arguement and it does hold some water, however his long range passing tends to have a completion rate of under 50% over the course of a season (which given how lauded he is for that aspect of his game is low imo).

    His medium range passing tends to never get to 80% either.


    To use a PL comparison that I already did.

    Pedro Porro tends to match TAA for long range passing, medium range and short range. Very similar accuaracy rates and very similar in terms of where he tries to play his passes into.

    TAA does attempt more long passes, but that accuracy side of things stays very close to that of Porro across the board.


    TAA this season attempted far less through balls and switch balls (the long cross field passes that travel 40 yards or more) so he attempted less by way of the higher risk passes yet his passing accuracy did not rise at all.

    The switch passes for example. He made over a 100 of them during the 2019/20 season. He has made 31 to date this season. So as said, less high risk passes, but no real improvement on his long range accuracy.


    None of that makes him even close to being a bad player or a bad right back or whatever, but what it does make him, imo of course, is closer to the level of the other better full backs in the league the past two seasons rather than being the stand out guy who needs to be paid the wages of a world class performer.
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      Originally posted by Doc_Piptorious View Post
      You could make that arguement and it does hold some water, however his long range passing tends to have a completion rate of under 50% over the course of a season (which given how lauded he is for that aspect of his game is low imo).

      His medium range passing tends to never get to 80% either.


      To use a PL comparison that I already did.

      Pedro Porro tends to match TAA for long range passing, medium range and short range. Very similar accuaracy rates and very similar in terms of where he tries to play his passes into.

      TAA does attempt more long passes, but that accuracy side of things stays very close to that of Porro across the board.


      TAA this season attempted far less through balls and switch balls (the long cross field passes that travel 40 yards or more) so he attempted less by way of the higher risk passes yet his passing accuracy did not rise at all.

      The switch passes for example. He made over a 100 of them during the 2019/20 season. He has made 31 to date this season. So as said, less high risk passes, but no real improvement on his long range accuracy.


      None of that makes him even close to being a bad player or a bad right back or whatever, but what it does make him, imo of course, is closer to the level of the other better full backs in the league the past two seasons rather than being the stand out guy who needs to be paid the wages of a world class performer.
      Interesting, on the basis of this, would you offer him 300K a week?
      * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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        Someone needs to tell Bradley that it's ok to shoot rather than pass when through on goal.
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          Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
          Interesting, on the basis of this, would you offer him 300K a week?


          No.


          My reasoning for that is the same as it was at the start of the season and that a 300k a week wage (in fact anything above 250k ) at a club like Liverpool FC should mean you are the best or one of the best performers at the club more or less week in week out season after season.



          For me we have three guys at the club who are that.

          Salah
          VVD
          Alisson ( I know he is not meant to be on 300k and is supposedly on about 200k but I digress)


          Those three just turn up and get it done game after game. Big performances and/or big returns. The genuine slumps in form and/or return are few and short.


          TAA on the other hand is now two years into giving performances that, over the course of a season, fall a level or two below what those three give. Imo as usual.


          We have a one or two others in the team that look like that might be reaching the level where they are a 7 or 8 out of 10 most weeks and might be ready to join the three I named as the "dependable top tier guys"


          MacAllister in particular on that score.







          Just a little caveat, when I say a wage figure, I am talking the basic wage and not including various bonuses that add to the wage total per player.
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            Agree, also agree on valuing Mac higher than Trent, if someone deserves a wage bump it's him.
            * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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              How do you grow up a Liverpool fan in the city, experience that yesterday the club want to keep you and think nah I want to go somewhere else?
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                Feels like a Stevie G moment that he had after Istanbul. How can I leave after that?

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                  Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                  How do you grow up a Liverpool fan in the city, experience that yesterday the club want to keep you and think nah I want to go somewhere else?
                  £40m.

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                    Originally posted by bonzai View Post
                    Feels like a Stevie G moment that he had after Istanbul. How can I leave after that?
                    Add in that Madrid are about to bin Ancelotti, and have had a bad week in the ‘entitled cunts’ arena. Even for them.
                    Modifying post.

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                      He said at beginning of the season that winning trophies motivates him and he wants to play where he will be successful. He probably didn't expect to be winning the league this year (like the rest of us).

                      Let's see if he's true to his word.

                      I can't find the exact quote but I raised my eyebrow at the time.
                      Oh I don't know.

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                        Here’s hoping he realises he’ll never have it this good again. We are on the cusp of something special if we make a few key signings.
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                          I wonder if he knew that Klopp is joining Madrid...
                          "We oil the jaws of the war machine and feed it with our babies."

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                            Gakpo said this yesterday when being interviewed:

                            "Now with Mo and Virgil staying, and hopefully Trent as well, they can keep building."

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                              Originally posted by DerKrampus View Post
                              I wonder if he knew that Klopp is joining Madrid...
                              Id be gutted if he went to Madrid or either Manchester club. I can handle any other team, but Madrid would be painful.
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                                I wouldn't care if he chose any of those 3. It would make a mockery of everything he'd said and done before l, and I don't think he's that sort of man, but if he did it's his funeral, not ours

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