Alex Oxlade Chamberlain aka "The Ox"

[RedReet]

Poor game admittedly but it is only his first start, far too soon to be writing him off.

Curiously I see some mention Lallana, if you review the Lallana thread there are similar posts about him not being good enough, waste of money etc.

Interesting indeed. From a very small sample size:

Hmmmmmm

Almost £40m for the a guy with 9 months left on his contract and we haven't won a game since he joined and now he is quickly turning into a scapegoat for a failed transfer window.

That money could have been used for a new CB and added to the 'war chest' for Lemar.

Arsenal fans laughing at us also.

https://twitter.com/fkhanage/status/910242799496437761

https://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=3101402&postcount=696

What worries me is, this is how he played when I saw him for Arsenal. Yes he'd put a decent few games together but he'd tend to get injured then and his stock would rise when he was out. He'd then come back in, play **** under the excuse of needing time to get fit, rinse and repeat, his stock grew further when the rest of the team were playing **** but he was at least seen to be trying.

Bang average player.

https://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=3102740&postcount=718

I always saw him as a headless chicken during his Arsenal days and when we were linked I though god please no.

Hopefully Klopp can improve him but there's a hell of a lot he needs to improve on.

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45m for a player not good enough for the first 11, what were we thinking apart from panic buy because Couts may still go and Arsenal have out bid us for Lemar.

https://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=3103966&postcount=743

And he only had one year left on his contract.

Klopp said he's a long term project. Based on what I've seen so far I hope it's long term with the U23s. Like the next two seasons and then quietly send him back to Arsenal.

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Bob, we all knew before he came, these opinions are not based on one start, last night just adds confirmation that he is not first 11 standard so why spend so much on a reserve.

https://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=3130580&postcount=773

This is what the u23s are supposed to provide. OJ is better than the Ox.

https://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=3123511&postcount=748

What you see is what you get, a squad player at best; he isn't a CM, nor a RWB & has not got the tools to be a starter in a Klopp forward formation; so what is going to be his position?

I don't care we spent 35mill on him, rather than wait 9 months & get him free (i think he was bought to appease Klopp/fans tbh); but i am concerned that he isn't a good fit.

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[danperkins]

I'll hang off on calling him Poxdale Chamberlain for awhile but he must improve on both his cameos and that nightmare debut.

Personally I never seen him as a first team player, more of a good squaddie player. He was never anything special at Arsenal if everyone is honest. The fee was well over the top but that's modern football for you, well the prem anyways but even a fully fit and firing Ox in my opinion won't get ahead of most of our current first teamers in the positions he wants to play.

In saying that, him playing a few mins here and there will do nothing for him or us. It's early days and he has time to improve and learn our ways. To be honest, I didn't really care if we signed him or not in the end as I thought we were getting that prick Lemar but hopefully Ox can push on and prove a good purchase for us... we need all the help we can get ffs.

[Daniel 7]

I'll hang off on calling him Poxdale Chamberlain for awhile
.

Hold off for good, its rubbish!

[danperkins]

Hold off for good, its rubbish!

[BillobShaisley]

If we're going for the Georgian era, Buzz Killinsaw names the you'd have to crow-bar a Chamberpot into into. Oxglazed maybe?

[Charly]

The Pox
The Cox

[Daniel 7]

Central mid tomorrow? He'll end up looking sad on the wing though

[PTP]

the ox!?

I fear this signing is going to become the focus point on where people start to point the finger on where Klopp/the club have started to go wrong and it could end up being made into an Andy Carroll scale of **** ups.

£40m on a player that doesn't get a look in, in a team that is all over the shop, and he's not the answer to any of our problems.....And we has he featured he's hardly covered himself in glory yet.

Think we'll start to see a lot more people complaining about this signing and why wasn't the money spent on a keeper/cb/cm - if klopp doesn't start to turn things round then this signing will come under some stick and after a year or so we'll end up selling him to middle to bottom half club for about £15m

[baitman]

who would take him, and why would he go. isnt he on 100k every seven ****ing days

[danperkins]

It is a signing that so far makes absolutely no sense considering the other glaring issues that were ignored or not addressed. Now couple that with him not getting a look in & the signing seems totally baffling.

[PTP]

It is a signing that so far makes absolutely no sense considering the other glaring issues that were ignored or not addressed. Now couple that with him not getting a look in & the signing seems totally baffling.

I could forgive it if he'd come in and had a salah type impact....

but i'd say his best position (imo) would be as a pacy wide attacker - so whilst agree cover there is good to have - but given his performances and game time so far there is an argument that basically Markovic or keeping Origi would have offered the same and we'd have saved £40m to spend elsewhere.

the more we struggle for form and he doesn't contribute - the more and more questions will be asked.

[danperkins]

I could forgive it if he'd come in and had a salah type impact....

but i'd say his best position (imo) would be as a pacy wide attacker - so whilst agree cover there is good to have - but given his performances and game time so far there is an argument that basically Markovic or keeping Origi would have offered the same and we'd have saved £40m to spend elsewhere.

the more we struggle for form and he doesn't contribute - the more and more questions will be asked.

I always thought he was a decent player nothing more to be honest, looked great when he burst on the scene but hasn't been up to much since. The price tag is insane but we just really didn't him did we? The funny thing is he thought he was coming here to play in his favoured position on centre mid.

His cameos have been pretty embarrassing but even if he turns out to be a good buy in the long run, we still didn't really need him. I just don't get it.

[labourRed]

He was a panic last minute recruitment for appeasement. We had Lallana injured so were looking for a midfielder. But he was never signed over a CB.

We should have waited a year, IMO. I think he'll be a good signing and add needed depth but it's wierd that he's deemed worse than Wijnaldum.

[S-RED]

He was a panic last minute recruitment for appeasement. We had Lallana injured so were looking for a midfielder. But he was never signed over a CB.

We should have waited a year, IMO. I think he'll be a good signing and add needed depth but it's wierd that he's deemed worse than Wijnaldum.

He was definitely an appeasement signing & it has backfired (so far), i don't see where he fits in for a £40mill signing.

Had he been a sub £20mill signing, not as much would have been made about him; but at 40mill 'even in this day & age' you want someone who can add a bit of wow to your team. The ox never will.

[Daniel 7]

He was a panic last minute recruitment for appeasement. We had Lallana injured so were looking for a midfielder. But he was never signed over a CB.

We should have waited a year, IMO. I think he'll be a good signing and add needed depth but it's wierd that he's deemed worse than Wijnaldum.

How was he panic buy when we were linked to him all summer? It was no surprise when he signed - the only reason it was so late in the window was for Arsenal to save face about losing a player they rated highly enough to offer 180k a week. He hasn't been great so far, but then neither has anyone else.

It was seems like an intentioned plan to get him that late in the window, probably at Arsenal's insistence.