BBC Sports Personality of the Year 2012

[Shaggy]

I'm a Mo man - his double gold was my highlight of a tremendous summer of sport. Wiggy and Murra as runners-up.

Must say both of Mo's wins will stay with me forever. I've never felt so....erm....not sure what the word is.......anyway whatever it is I've never felt it watching athletics during my adult life. It'll actually be a good show this year, looking forward to reliving some truly inspiring moments.

[Daniel 7]

You cried, is that what you're trying to say?

[Shaggy]

Ha. No. But I felt emotional and was standing up ROARING him home. Quite strange.

[Daniel 7]

We did in a hotel in France, all 5 of us. It was brilliant!

[Neil Young]

I realise this will be dismissed as the ravings of someone who wears lycra and therefore can only be hopelessly biased, but I don't get this idea that Murray deserves it. Winning the US Open is a fine achievement but it simply doesn't compare to winning the Tour de France. No Briton has won it before. Ever. No-one had even finished on the podium before.

Whereas in tennis, Rusedski was runner-up in the US Open only a few years ago (what was it, 97?) and even Henman repeatedly made/blew semi-finals at Wimbledon. If Murray had won Wimbledon then I can see the emotional/pressure argument. But he didn't.

And obviously Laura Trott deserves to be on the shortlist. Maybe instead of Kath Grainger. But then I rather like Grainger so maybe not.

[captainfog]

I realise this will be dismissed as the ravings of someone who wears lycra and therefore can only be hopelessly biased, but I don't get this idea that Murray deserves it. Winning the US Open is a fine achievement but it simply doesn't compare to winning the Tour de France. No Briton has won it before. Ever. No-one had even finished on the podium before.

Whereas in tennis, Rusedski was runner-up in the US Open only a few years ago (what was it, 97?) and even Henman repeatedly made/blew semi-finals at Wimbledon. If Murray had won Wimbledon then I can see the emotional/pressure argument. But he didn't.

And obviously Laura Trott deserves to be on the shortlist. Maybe instead of Kath Grainger. But then I rather like Grainger so maybe not.

It was the first Briton to win a major for nearly 80 years. That's is comparable to Wiggins and the Tour. Also, Wiggo was favourite to win (or at least it seemed like that in the doco) whereas Murray definitely wasn't.

There is nothing between the two and it basically comes down to which sport you prefer.

[Neil Young]

I know all that and I don't think they're comparable. Of course it's personal taste as far as the sports are concerned but the achievements are on different levels.

[Rich]

Nothing beats this:

[Shaggy]

I know all that and I don't think they're comparable. Of course it's personal taste as far as the sports are concerned but the achievements are on different levels.

I very much disagree.

[Kenneth]

Nothing beats this:

This was the biggest sporting buzz for me this year.

[Shaggy]

The Olympics were ****ing amazing weren't they.

I hope over Christmas there's some sort of BBC retrospective on the Games, though we'll probably have to make do with SPOTY.

[Rich]

I bought the BBC's Olympics DVD package for the other half's B-Day.

[Reece]

I don't like him because of the grasshoppers that suddenly pop out during Wimbledon and then go into hibernation again. I think he's a humble bloke who has kept his focus and worked hard. So basically, I like him for his personality, but I don't like him because of the annual pricks who shout 'Come on Andy' as much as they can. Not his fault I know. His mum cheering like a she-male doesn't help my dislike around the annual Murray circus.

Is that really any different than the people who were cheering on Mo etc? I bet 99% of them don't watch athletics throughout the year. Same can be said for the cycling. It's just that the tennis tends to be more high profile.

[Phoenix07]

Is that really any different than the people who were cheering on Mo etc? I bet 99% of them don't watch athletics throughout the year. Same can be said for the cycling. It's just that the tennis tends to be more high profile.

Murray 'Mania' (whoever came up with that needs castrating) has been around for a good number of years. I'll only hear about Mo Farah and co when they talk about the Olympics or on the news if they do well in other events for a few seconds. That's it.

[Neil Young]

I very much disagree.

Yes, I understand that.

But I don't see how it bears examination.

For a start, there's an absolute difference between being the first Briton to win something for eighty years and being the first Briton to win something. It's not just quantitative, it's a qualitative difference. And as I said before, no Briton had even come close to winning the Tour. Whereas the US Open was almost won by that gurning pile of teeth and forehead only fifteen years ago (from memory).

The team thing is often held against Wiggins' achievement but of course there's 'Team Murray' too, as you don't get to be in the world top ten in tennis without an entourage of coaches, technicians and cheerleaders.

Winning the Tour de France is the absolute pinnacle of cycling. It can't just not be topped, it can't even be equalled. Nothing else comes close. Whereas the US Open is regarded as the equal of the other three Grand Slams and, as I implied earlier, the one everyone here wants him to win more than any other is Wimbledon.

I could go on but better not.