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    #76
    Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
    Hmm, you can't win the Tour de France clean by taking a drug either.

    Of course it depends what qualities you choose to value. Yes, it's not a game so you don't need great hand/eye coordination but Murray is revealing his own ignorance there. It's not "purely physical" - to be a great road cyclist you need good technique and tactical ability as well as big lungs and powerful leg muscles.

    And how about personal courage? When was the last time Blubber Murray risked his life on the professional tennis circuit? Crashing is inevitable in road racing and every now and then a professional dies. The last one I'm aware of was Wouter Weylandt who died in May last year at the Giro d'Italia. A freak accident on a dangerous descent, it could have happened to anyone. Wiggins rode that race, it could as easily have been him.
    It's a bit like golf. If a Titleist comes careering out of the sky and clonks you on the temple, you're going down. You're dead!
    Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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      #77
      Originally posted by Alex View Post
      Neither of you are going to budge are you. Ever.
      Maybe not but it's ok since we're making new points in the discussion.

      At least I am.
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      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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        #78
        Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
        Yeah


        Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
        but Murray's better.


        Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
        You're losing the argument when you start attacking the opposition


        Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
        Originally posted by Andy Blubby View Post
        The one thing I would say with a sport like cycling is it’s purely physical, there’s very little skill involved in the Tour de France. It is the power, how many watts you’re producing, whereas with tennis you can’t learn the skill by taking a drug.
        Murray and Shaggy attacking the opposition there. Makes a change for Murray I suppose.
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        Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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          #79
          Maybe the end of SPOTY could involve some kind of hybrid cycling/tennis match in which Wiggo and Murray slug it out for the title.

          I'd back Murray in that as well
          Modifying post.

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            #80
            The sooner you lot get independence the better.
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            Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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              #81
              Bump. Is anyone watching the 2012 show tonight
              Football without Origi is nothing

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                #82
                Mo

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                  #83
                  I think you mean no. I'm flicking between Barcelona and NFL.
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                  Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                    #84
                    Wiggo is a bit pissed Neil

                    Never had you as an NFL fan.

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                      #85
                      Do they have an international sports personality award too?
                      That rug really tied the room together.

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by Chazza View Post
                        Wiggo is a bit pissed Neil

                        Never had you as an NFL fan.
                        Ok, t be h, I flicked through just as they were showing the Wiggins footage so I watched it and caught the interview with 'Susan'. I thought the same.

                        NFL, I take an interest. It's good but it's not cyglib.
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                        Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                          #87
                          WTF is Mick McCarthy doing there?

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                            #88
                            Stringer Bell
                            We come not to play.

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                              #89
                              I just tuned in and though i accidentally switch on the smash hits poll winners party.
                              Oh I don't know.

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                                #90
                                Pendleton.

                                F*ck off, Barker, go back to Pendleton.
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                                Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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