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IMO we have to look past the price tag and focus on Carroll the player, right now it doesn't matter how much he cost, it matters that he is playing for Liverpool and looks like he's getting fitter then before and is adding to the team. He'll score loads eventually, just like Torres will eventually.
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Are you for real? Berbatov has hardly been a flop. 21 goals last season! And some sublime performances.
Intermittently. Us aside, he was largely a flat track bully last year. And that's 1 in 3 seasons. Why do you think he's benched now & was for the latter part of the CL last year?
Speaking to almost any Scum fan- and I do living here sadly- and theyll say he was a waste of money.
[quote=Parr_Zee;2059011][QUOTE=topscorer;2058891]Everyone gets hung up on the Carroll fee but it's been made clear by the owners that we would never have paid 35m for Carroll if Chelsea hadn't paid 50m for Torres.
They valued Torres as being worth 15m more than Carroll and then it was up to Chelsea how much they wanted to buy Torres.
In my opinion it's Chelsea that was mad, I doubt we ever expected them to go as high as 50m. Mike Ashley probably couldn't believe his luck when we kept going back to him with a higher offer.
Are you saying that we paid £35m for Carroll even though we could have got him for much cheaper? If Chelsea had offered £35m for Torres, we would have got Carroll for £20m? Or if Chelsea offered £70m for Torres, we would have bid £55m for Carroll?
Nonsense.
People are trying to make excuses for Carroll's poor form. The hard fact is that, from what we have seen so far, he is performing NOWHERE near the required standard (regardless of what we paid for him).
Not nonsense at all. Newcastle were asked how much they wanted for Carroll, they said £35 million, so Chelsea where told to buy Torres it would cost them £15 million more than what we would be spending on his replacement Andy Carrol, so Carroll's price drove the Torres price.. Liverpool did say that at the time...
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Not nonsense at all. Newcastle were asked how much they wanted for Carroll, they said £35 million, so Chelsea where told to buy Torres it would cost them £15 million more than what we would be spending on his replacement Andy Carrol, so Carroll's price drove the Torres price.. Liverpool did say that at the time...
This has already been discussed and if it is actually true, then it was v.poor negotiation by us, becuase we could have made much more than a £15m profit.
Yes, they said that but they're wrong if they expect us to believe it, or think it was sensible. We had £50m in cash, then we spent £35m of it on an unproven and injured player. He might prove his worth, but even if he does I don't think I'll even be convinced that it was a sensible purchase.
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This has already been discussed and if it is actually true, then it was v.poor negotiation by us, becuase we could have made much more than a £15m profit.
Well not necessarily.. Chelsea must have surely been in contact with Newcastle as well, I don't imagine any transfer on the last day of the transfer window goes anything like what we could possibly imagine...
"If you can't support us when we lose or draw, don't support us when we win." - Bill Shankly
Well not necessarily.. Chelsea must have surely been in contact with Newcastle as well, I don't imagine any transfer on the last day of the transfer window goes anything like what we could possibly imagine...
Why would Chelsea have been in touch with Newcastle? Were they interested in Tiote?
Tiote is a player I'm very impressed by. I have a few mates who are Newcastle fan's and end up seeing quite a few matches with em. Everyone there rates him. Wouldn't be surprised if the big clubs were in for him soon.
Rumours that striker Andy Carroll was leaving Liverpool erupted on Twitter after he was 'spotted' outside Manchester City's stadium. But thankfully for Kopites, it was just a case of mistaken identity after his namesake's tiling firm rocked up outside City's club shop.
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