Owen again... do not read if you hate Owen!!

[Hooz]

Funny, that is exactly what Florentino Perez said shortly after Michael Owen pulled our pants down, ****ed us royally and signed for him.

Except it was £8 million and a reserve-team nobody.

I don't think it was Michael Owen who set the transfer fee.

Open your eyes.

[desertscouser]

Nonsense Hooz. Owen had 10 months left on his contract. Rafa had no choice but to accept Real's moeny.

People have short memories. Owen is a little ****er...he said on numerous occassions that he'd sign a new contract and Dumb and Dumber (Parry and GH) fell for it hook line and sinker. Because of their collective naiveity we ended up getting fleeced and fooled by Owen who clearly never had any intention of signing a new contract.

[Alpha]

I don't think it was Michael Owen who set the transfer fee.

Open your eyes.

Of course, we chose to sell Owen for a fraction of his true value.

It all makes sense now.

[redwien]

Owen is exactly what we need. We've brought in new forwards but we still don't have an out-and-out goal-scorer.

For £9m, he would be a steal.

It won't happen now, because Owen has said he's staying at Newcastle, which is a great ****ing shame.

Owen's happy at Newcastle because nobody else wants him!

[Red Chilli]

I don't think it was Michael Owen who set the transfer fee.

Open your eyes.

No need to be condescending

Liverpool were in left in a position where they had very little to negotiate with as Owen had 12 months left on his contract and we were almost at the end of the trasfer window.

[Red Chilli]

Owen's happy at Newcastle because nobody else want him!

It is an interesting FACT that FAT SAM advertised him in the press saying
"woe is me, Michael has a clause in his contract and there's nothing I can do to stop him leaving"
and how many clubs have matched that clause? Even Spurs, even Citeh, even Ice Ham have shown no interest.

Why could that be?

[Hooz]

Of course, we chose to sell Owen for a fraction of his true value.

It all makes sense now.

Well, um, yes we did.

No one had a gun to our head. He was in negotiations on a new contract, we could have rejected the bid, said he was going nowhere and gone on and sealed the contract.

You know, we don't have to accept a bid.

[REDSCOUSER]

I can't believe the disdain on here for Owen.

He didn't "****" us. Benitez played just as big a part in that whole transfer affair as Owen did.

It's true he has a bad injury record, but he'd had serious injuries before he went to Madrid and was excellent there when he played.

A year out of football does not mean his career is over, he's still only 27 and players have come back from serious injuries before. He has lost some of his pace but he is still quick, quicker than either Kuyt or Crouch.

If he can get maybe 3 injury-free months under his belt then you're looking at probably the best forward in Britain in terms of goals.

Fitness allowing, he is vastly superior to Defoe and Bent, and only really Torres is on a par with him out of the strikers we now possess.

£9m is an absolute bargain. I would love to see him back here.

AFII is that you ?

[Red Chilli]

Well, um, yes we did.

No one had a gun to our head. He was in negotiations on a new contract, we could have rejected the bid, said he was going nowhere and gone on and sealed the contract.

You know, we don't have to accept a bid.

For the best part of 2 ****ing years. What was he negotiating?

Contrast that with Carra "Put a contract in front of me and I'll sign"

[desertscouser]

Well, um, yes we did.

No one had a gun to our head. He was in negotiations on a new contract, we could have rejected the bid, said he was going nowhere and gone on and sealed the contract.

You know, we don't have to accept a bid.

You're clearly more naive than Parry and GH were. If you were in charge we would've got **** all for Owen. Thankfully though Rafa came in, sized up Owen, realised that GH and Parry were being taken for a ride and decided to cut his losses by accepting a few million for the little ****.

[Spionkop69]

h:

it makes me laugh on here sometimes peoples opinions etc and I suppose that's half the fun & why I come on here daily if not to post then to at least read.

But then there's subjects that make me cringe and the Owen one is the one that really makes my skin crawl.

What happens on here and on KT in the past as well I guess is that (especially under the Benitez era) people come on here and moan, none stop for months about how we have NO ONE who scores goals.

So we then mention Michael Owen as a possible replacement. Now fair enough people don't want him back cause of the way he f*cked us about- fair enough and honestly, I really don't blame you.

But to come on here and say with such conviction that he ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH, just shows that there are too many people that just don't watch football at all on these forums.

Here's a "FACT!" Despite his injury record which IS poor, apart from last season when he was abscent all season he still looks more dangerous and has scored more goals every season than any of our forwards have managed since the little **** himself actually moved on.

Actually i'm not 100% on that goal scoring stat from 2005-06 when he come back to England but I think he got at least 8 that season before he was injured. which is i think only one less than Cisse in the league for that season.

Anyway in short since he left we've started up front with no less than 5 different strikers and ONE of them has bettered him since he left and that was because Owen himself missed half a season.

If you don't want him back cause you hate what he did to us then fine, thats your call and one I certainly can relate to if not agree with but to just not rate him as a footballer? Deary me!

I agree with most of that.

The only thing that makes me laugh is the people on the internet forums who know exactly what went on between LFC and Owen.

The only FACT in all of this is that no one on here knows about the trnasfer sagas apart from Owen, his advisors and the hierarchy of the club.

Now if any of the posters on here come from those groups then I'll accept your greater knowledge on the subject but to those who aren't please stop posting your spurious opinions as fact.

Yes you don't like Owen, we get that, in spades, but coming up with half truths and then adding your own bits is the practice of a shoody newspaper we all love to hate.

EDIT: the end of that post was not a reply to the person I quoted! In case there is any query...damn my fat fingers.

[desertscouser]

For the best part of 2 ****ing years. What was he negotiating?

Contrast that with Carra "Put a contract in front of me and I'll sign"

And the difference is, Carra is a legend who's won the Champions League whilst Owen is at Newcastle playing for Fat Sam You've got to love Karma.

[Alpha]

Well, um, yes we did.

No one had a gun to our head. He was in negotiations on a new contract, we could have rejected the bid, said he was going nowhere and gone on and sealed the contract.

You know, we don't have to accept a bid.

Do you honestly believe we would have sold Owen for a meagre £8 million if there was any chance of him signing a new contract?

Next you'll be saying he was forced out against his wishes.

[Red Chilli]

h:

I agree with most of that.

The only thing that makes me laugh is the people on the internet forums who know exactly what went on between LFC and Owen.

The only FACT in all of this is that no one on here knows about the trnasfer sagas apart from Owen, his advisors and the hierarchy of the club.

Now if any of the posters on here come from those groups then I'll accept your greater knowledge on the subject but to those who aren't please stop posting your spurious opinions as fact.

Yes you don't like Owen, we get that, in spades, but coming up with half truths and then adding your own bits is the practice of a shoody newspaper we all love to hate.

You're a bit out of order with that statement comparing our fans to that newspaper.
Are you going to provide examples of these "half truths" then?

[Tee]

h:

I agree with most of that.

The only thing that makes me laugh is the people on the internet forums who know exactly what went on between LFC and Owen.

The only FACT in all of this is that no one on here knows about the trnasfer sagas apart from Owen, his advisors and the hierarchy of the club.

Now if any of the posters on here come from those groups then I'll accept your greater knowledge on the subject but to those who aren't please stop posting your spurious opinions as fact.

Yes you don't like Owen, we get that, in spades, but coming up with half truths and then adding your own bits is the practice of a shoody newspaper we all love to hate.

Well said. There has been so much said about that saga that many just take it as fact that he screwed us over when it may not have been the case. Why would we have tried to sign him again if he had shafted us? Rafa does not seem like the forgiving type, so for him to say that Michael could come back in the future says a lot.

I would really liked to see him play in a Rafa team - he would have done very well IMO.