Is Hodgson the right man for LFC

[Neil Young]

but why????

he proved he couldnt cut it with us - he tried and failed to win us the league and 2 years ago with **** tactics and negative subs he threw the league away.

he proved he wasnt up to it so why have him back?

for all we know roy could win us the league.

Oh come on. You clearly have a different opinion but don't insult us both by pretending you aren't fully aware of the arguments. Look in any LFC thread in the last week and you can read them over and over and over again.

As for Hodgson winning the league, it's possible. It's also possible he will never win another match, that I will f*ck Sarah Palin and that you will become the Archbishop of Canterbury and lead the Anglican Communion into a rapprochement with other sects and other faiths, so ushering in a new age of religious tolerance and spiritual harmony.

That's the thing about the future, there are plenty of things that aren't absolutely impossible and so could happen.

But they won't. And you won't. And I won't.

And he won't.

[the rev leeroy brown]

i'll leave it at this . . . . . . IMO roy will get it right. all bull **** and wind ups apart i think we have shown signs of getting better and there is no reason why we wont gel as a team and finish top 4.

please please please have some faith in your team and your manager.

[Dalglish]

rafa garaunteed top 4 and no one on here laughed at that. it was a general feeling that he had every right to say it . . . . .so do i.

It's a fair comparison. You're both in virtually identical positions at the time that comment is made.

[Dalglish]

i think we have shown signs of getting better .

I would be delighted to read of these apparent improvements.

[Shaggy]

why thank you.

we should have romped the league 2 years back but from a great position rafa ****ed it and only a cavalier approch for the first and only time in his years here did we get near the top of the league that year.

rafa garaunteed top 4 and no one on here laughed at that. it was a general feeling that he had every right to say it . . . . .so do i. i beleive roy will get us top 4. no reason why he shouldnt. with the hardest of starts to a season, a new team, new tactics, new personnel it was always going to be hard but please have faith.

oh aye, babel will be world class

We weren't fifth from bottom when Rafa said what he said.

"Rafa ****ed it"

I can't be arsed debating this properly - for a start it's lunacy and it's been done to death. You're entitled to your delusions.

[Kenneth]

Utter nonsense.

It's not. He is and was clearly a very good manager, he had a very effective set up that enabled us to challenge. But he did piss away points unnecessarily, which is why it was even more annoying. He did the 80% and got the 20% wrong. Mainly not making positive subs, or making bafflingly late subs. He was almost there, but his faults showed no signs of disappearing. Obviously, compared to Roy he seems like a genius

[malg]

Garanteeing we'll finish 4th; only a nutter would do that.

Unlike Hodgson who likes to say things like we will win some games we shouldn't win (like which) and lose some we should win. Rafa knew he was on his last legs due to crap owners and fans getting on his back for 1 (one) bad season. Now we have a manager that has no clue how to change a game or even pick a team.

[Lecter]

boring negative keep the ball in our final third though.

whats the use of pushing the fullbacks up when they are the furthest forward of the team though. he wouldnt allow mash / alonso / lucas any freedom to attack.

If Rafa was negative what does that make Hodgson

I've never see such a negative Liverpool side as we have put out so far this season and thats in 30 years of watching us

Its horrendous baseless football at its lowest level

Honestly so far Hogson has made Benitez look like Vicente Feola or Rinus Michels

[Fredo]

i'll leave it at this . . . . . . IMO roy will get it right. all bull **** and wind ups apart i think we have shown signs of getting better and there is no reason why we wont gel as a team and finish top 4.

please please please have some faith in your team and your manager.

Signs of getting better?

Faith has to be earned, he hasn't earned anything yet and he won't earn anything until he radically improves things.

[Dalglish]

It's not. He is and was clearly. Very good manager, he had a very effective set up thy enabled us to challenge. But he did piss away points unnecessarily, which is why it was even more annoying. He did the 80% and got the 20% wrong. Mainly not making positive subs, or making bafflingly late subs. He was almost there, but his faults showed no signs of disappearing. Obviously, compared to Roy he seems like a genius

Fair enough then - I guess I was reading your post in the context of The Reverend's growing insanity.

I think most folk werent/arent blind to Rafa's flaws. I certainly wasnt and found him hugely frustrating at times, especially towards the end. That said I was gutted when he left as it was the wrong thing for the club IMO.

Once he left teh only way we could improve was by employing a manager of equal standing and ability. We havent done that.

[Lecter]

Fair enough then - I guess I was reading your post in the context of The Reverend's growing insanity.

I think most folk werent/arent blind to Rafa's flaws. I certainly wasnt and found him hugely frustrating at times, especially towards the end. That said I was gutted when he left as it was the wrong thing for the club IMO.

Once he left teh only way we could improve was by employing a manager of equal standing and ability. We havent done that.

[Neil Young]

It's not. He is and was clearly a very good manager, he had a very effective set up that enabled us to challenge. But he did piss away points unnecessarily, which is why it was even more annoying. He did the 80% and got the 20% wrong. Mainly not making positive subs, or making bafflingly late subs. He was almost there, but his faults showed no signs of disappearing. Obviously, compared to Roy he seems like a genius

What I find so intensely irritating is that all this was perfectly obvious back in May (and indeed earlier). Benitez got plenty of things wrong but he got a hell of a lot more right. It was also perfectly obvious back then that we were not going to get a new manager who would be an improvement overall. Quite the opposite.

And lo it came to pass...

[Dalglish]

What I find so intensely irritating is that all this was perfectly obvious back in May (and indeed earlier). Benitez got plenty of things wrong but he got a hell of a lot more right. It was also perfectly obvious back then that we were not going to get a new manager who would be an improvement overall. Quite the opposite.

And lo it came to pass...

Agreed. Just think, if this had happenned two seasons ago we might have ended up with Phil Brown.

[Shaggy]

Fair enough then - I guess I was reading your post in the context of The Reverend's growing insanity.

I think most folk werent/arent blind to Rafa's flaws. I certainly wasnt and found him hugely frustrating at times, especially towards the end. That said I was gutted when he left as it was the wrong thing for the club IMO.

Once he left teh only way we could improve was by employing a manager of equal standing and ability. We havent done that.

We were never going to do that. There aren't that many of them around for a start, even fewer were actually available and precisely none of them would've taken the job with the constraints that Rafa had to work under.

[Shaggy]

What I find so intensely irritating is that all this was perfectly obvious back in May (and indeed earlier). Benitez got plenty of things wrong but he got a hell of a lot more right. It was also perfectly obvious back then that we were not going to get a new manager who would be an improvement overall. Quite the opposite.

And lo it came to pass...

Agreed. Just think, if this had happenned two seasons ago we might have ended up with Phil Brown.

McClaren and Allardyce were similarly flavour of the month at one time too.