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    Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
    Keita appears to be a leader and VVD is. Suspect we need one or two more, but hopefully we get both of those two - it'll be a start.
    I honestly believe, if we had those two, we would be second in the league and blitzed our CL group. They really are ‘spine’ players, so to speak.

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      keita looks like he leads by example, but is he vocal, can he bollock the players who drift?

      very true about the lack of leadership from the side of the pitch too... its a big worry.
      there didnt seem to be any urgency to change the shape and counter the change to sevilles tactics. too much ball watching.

      no problems with klopp as regards our attacking but he does seem a bit one dimensional.
      if teams wont allow us to play our A game then we dont have an alternative and just go to ****.
      naive or just a one trick pony?
      removing all the weak links makes us stronger

      too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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        Originally posted by BigChief View Post
        But how far is that from changing very soon? Our best CB may be VVD and our best CM Keita, if not Goertzka. That makes a huge leap of difference.
        Hope you’re right. Seems like we’ve been in transition for years. Liverpool fans should no longer be accused of focusing on past glories - nowadays we’re more likely to be talking about ‘next season’.
        Another MASSIVE game

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          We need to upgrade our midfield & we know Coutinho & Can are off & id add Henderson to the list & Milner might just make the bench.

          That leaves Wijnaldum, Keita & Lallana & possibly Woodburn & Oxlade C so we’d need 2-3 signings. Goretzka is no 1 priority imo to replace Henderson, Lemar to replace Coutinho & we’d be cooking with gas.
          Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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            Originally posted by SB View Post
            We need to upgrade our midfield & we know Coutinho & Can are off & id add Henderson to the list & Milner might just make the bench.

            That leaves Wijnaldum, Keita & Lallana & possibly Woodburn & Oxlade C so we’d need 2-3 signings. Goretzka is no 1 priority imo to replace Henderson, Lemar to replace Coutinho & we’d be cooking with gas.
            We'd still need a holding midfielder. Some sort of hard-arse would be nice.
            Really?

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              Originally posted by Tatterdemalion View Post
              We'd still need a holding midfielder. Some sort of hard-arse would be nice.
              That’s Goretzka for me. I know he can cover other positions but DM is where we’d play him hopefully
              Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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                I think between Keita and Goretzka they'd solve a lot of our issues. Klopp has never really played with an out and out water carrying DM.
                Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                  Originally posted by SB View Post
                  That’s Goretzka for me. I know he can cover other positions but DM is where we’d play him hopefully
                  Really? Strikes me as more of an attacking midfielder.

                  In any event, it's rather beside the point. I don't think the first problem is personnel. I think the first problem is that Klopp still needs to recognise and solve the defensive issues, because we simply capitulate far too often - we're too fragile a the back. I think it might be a defensive midfielder that is required and an alteration in the tactics, but obviously he knows better than me. The personnel is the second problem, unless of course he is just making do, but I don't believe he has to do that, because the money is there.
                  Really?

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                    As far as I can tell (I don't watch Schalke), Goretzka is a multi-functional midfielder who can do most jobs in the middle of the park.
                    Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                      Originally posted by SB View Post
                      We need to upgrade our midfield & we know Coutinho & Can are off & id add Henderson to the list & Milner might just make the bench.

                      That leaves Wijnaldum, Keita & Lallana & possibly Woodburn & Oxlade C so we’d need 2-3 signings. Goretzka is no 1 priority imo to replace Henderson, Lemar to replace Coutinho & we’d be cooking with gas.
                      Wijnaldum is utter ****e imo
                      Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                        Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                        Wijnaldum is utter ****e imo
                        He's just a body hey.

                        I'd love to see a midfield of Goretzke, Keita and Lallana!
                        Was muß, das muß.

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                          I don't think any of Milner, Can, Wini or Henderson are good enough to be starters for LFC in that midfield.

                          The lack of leadership or any sort of composure or organisation is absolutely ridiculous.

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                            Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                            I don't think any of Milner, Can, Wini or Henderson are good enough to be starters for LFC in that midfield.

                            The lack of leadership or any sort of composure or organisation is absolutely ridiculous.
                            I agree but I also think that Wiji’s energy levels breaking up play higher up the field are valuable assets but he shouldn’t be a starter in our strongest X1.
                            Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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                              Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                              As far as I can tell (I don't watch Schalke), Goretzka is a multi-functional midfielder who can do most jobs in the middle of the park.
                              Dito. I did read that he’s best in the DM position but capable of playing them all. Hence I put 2 & 2 together & figured that we’d play him in place of Hendo who isn’t suited to that position at all. The commentator last night said “ Hazard just waltzed past Henderson like he wasn’t there” And that’s happening way too much imo.
                              Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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                                Originally posted by SB View Post
                                I agree but I also think that Wiji’s energy levels breaking up play higher up the field are valuable assets but he shouldn’t be a starter in our strongest X1.

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