Dejan Lovren

[McDermotX]

The lack of cover at fullback and now centre back is going to cost us at some point. Going into a season with 5 defenders is a disaster waiting to happen

It's unbelievable. Literally 5 senior defenders.

We are a lean, mean fighting machine...............with extra lean.

[badpiggy]

I have always felt he is/was a bit of a bell. The shouting at Mane and him at the forefront of the CL celebrations grabbing Hendo by the shirt whilst Hendo was holding big ears up. On the flip side. What has surprised my is the fact that him a Mo are bessies

For me he was a decent player for us in the main, the occasional hiccup, but thats football

I'm surprised by that too. Although I'm not sure why. Anyway, I hate that thoughts of being stuck for a defender regardless of who it is. He can do a job for us.

[Shaggy]

The lack of cover at fullback and now centre back is going to cost us at some point. Going into a season with 5 defenders is a disaster waiting to happen

It's unbelievable. Literally 5 senior defenders.

[Norbs]

Hoever looks a hell of a prospect but he's 17. So is Sepp van den Berg. It's wild enough throwing 17 year olds into attacking positions. Playing 17 year olds at centre-back at this level is just bat****.

On the other hand, Lovren can't stay fit for longer than a month or so without picking up some sort of niggle, and that's pretty useless especially when you're on 100k p/w.

It's almost as if VVD is being relied on for teaching and training up the apprentice centre backs. He will be as a matter of course but I wonder how he feels about the club not bringing someone in to take the pressure off him occasionally.

[The_weatherman]

Good deal, but we should have gotten in a replacement earlier.

That aside, we've cut a lot from our wage bill recently. Dejan and Sturridge are at least 200k. Moreno and Mig gone as well, I reckon Adrian is on a lower wage than Mig was on, must be at least 300k. a week better off just there. Surely we are preparing for something big next summer with all this streamlining.

[Liverpool]

The lack of cover at fullback and now centre back is going to cost us at some point. Going into a season with 5 defenders is a disaster waiting to happen

[labourRed]

Lovren needs games to be good and he's not likely to get a run of games due to his place in the squad and the niggles he gets.

Getting money for a 30yo injury prone player who is on 100k makes financial sense although it does leave us light for CBs. Fabinho did OK there last year as emergency cover.

No way Berg or Hoever are ready though so we might get cover in January. No like Gomez and Matip are made of stone either.

[Assassin]

Did anyone else see that video of Lovren after the CL shouting at Mane? Was he being a bit of a cunt? Is he a cunt? As in would Klopp want him out?

I have always felt he is/was a bit of a bell. The shouting at Mane and him at the forefront of the CL celebrations grabbing Hendo by the shirt whilst Hendo was holding big ears up. On the flip side. What has surprised my is the fact that him a Mo are bessies

For me he was a decent player for us in the main, the occasional hiccup, but thats football

[Fuzzy]

On a more positive note it looks like we're scraping together the money for #Mbappe2020 :P

[Fuzzy]

I think because of that start people keep forgetting he was actually pretty decent for most of the time here. Some heroic games, including the CL final which was unfortunately undone by Karius. If nothing else he always seemed to really care about the club.

Good luck to him.

[Mark79]

Lovren did pick up a bit after his dreadful start with us. I think people forget how abysmal and embarrassing he was for most of his first year or 2.

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Really? I don't think anyone has forgotten that!

[Shaggy]

He's not travelled for the Super Cup so must be off.

[Big-Red-Ed]

Lovren did pick up a bit after his dreadful start with us. I think people forget how abysmal and embarrassing he was for most of his first year or 2.

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[Dirk07]

Got to be Van Den Berg covering as 4th choice centre-back when we play in the Carabao Cup and FA Cup. I can see Hoever covering at right back.

I think his value is also because of his wages. He's on £100k a week, or something like that.

Agree with this.

I have also been thinking that part of the reason why we have managed to get VDB and also Harvey Elliott was on the basis that their progress would not be blocked by a full complement of senior players in their position.

In addition to be able to compete with the like of city we need to be smart, getting 15m and saving 5m in wages is about 8% of our total wage budget for the year.

[Phoenix07]

I think maybe Klopp's thinking is that for Matip to sign fresh terms (his contract expires at the end of the season), he'd be guaranteed regular game time, since he'll be rotating with Gomez and VVD, while at the same time, throwing the gauntlet to Hoever and Van Den Berg et al, that there's a free spot in the squad to work toward.

Not saying it's right or wrong, but perhaps what's informing their thought process.