Lucas

[rudedog]

people aren't just looking at stats though - they are using stats to back up what they are seeing - there is quite a difference.

No, they're just talking **** because they think Lucas is going to be an excellent central midfielder for us. My opinion yes, and like everything else, time will decide.

So if people see something that you don't and can back it up with stats your conclusion is that they are talking **** because it differs from your own opinion?

I don't think there is any point continuing this discussion if that's your approach to reasoned debate.

[JohnDoe]

No wonder you've got 59,000 posts. I'm done on this subject.

[rudedog]

No wonder you've got 59,000 posts. I'm done on this subject.

[Shaggy]

So if people see something that you don't and can back it up with stats your conclusion is that they are talking **** because it differs from your own opinion?

I don't think there is any point continuing this discussion if that's your approach to reasoned debate.

No wonder you've got 59,000 posts. I'm done on this subject.

Ah, the classic post count jibe. Really great stuff.

When you're on this sort of form, some of your posts are barely worth dignifying with a response.

[Arn]

No wonder you've got 59,000 posts. I'm done on this subject.

[JohnDoe]

So if people see something that you don't and can back it up with stats your conclusion is that they are talking **** because it differs from your own opinion?

I don't think there is any point continuing this discussion if that's your approach to reasoned debate.

That's their opinion and they're free to express it, it is also perfectly valid. My opinion is that their opinion is wrong. I like to say the word **** and this is a football forum, you don't have to be so picky.

[Arn]

That's their opinion and they're free to express it, it is also perfectly valid. My opinion is that their opinion is wrong. I like to say the word **** and this is a football forum, you don't have to be so picky.

You said it many times that our opinion based on statistics isn't valid.

[rudedog]

That's their opinion and they're free to express it, it is also perfectly valid. My opinion is that their opinion is wrong. I like to say the word **** and this is a football forum, you don't have to be so picky.

I wasn't being picky about you using the word **** - I was pointing out how futile it was trying to have a reasoned debate with you.

Anyway, I thought you were done with this discussion?

[Assassin]

So Lucas is as good a tackler as Mascherano according to stats.

Stats immediately lose all credibility.

Stats make you lose all credibilty

[JohnDoe]

You said it many times that our opinion based on statistics isn't valid.

It is your right to say whatever you want, you think I have any problem with people expressing their opinions? Any opinion is valid as it is an opinion. If this was a pub and I'd tell you you're talking **** on a subject, would you be offended and decide I'm a villain taking away your freedom?

Lighten up, this is just a football forum and there is banter.

[JohnDoe]

I wasn't being picky about you using the word **** - I was pointing out how futile it was trying to have a reasoned debate with you.

Anyway, I thought you were done with this discussion?

Yes, yes, I'm done... starting now!

[danperkins]

Gang mentality is in full swing, the internet is a great place for that ****. Keyboard warriors unite

[rudedog]

Gang mentality is in full swing, the internet is a great place for that ****. Keyboard warriors unite

[Mostar]

His tackling record vs bolton was suprising low. What has it been like for the rest of the season, there could be a relation between positive play and worse defensive performance.

His tackling has been average all season thus far.

He had 54 tackles and he won 28 of those which makes his overall success rate at 51%.

Nothing special.

[Maxiedge]

Who knows, the guy is a bloody idiot!

nahhh he's alright. I quite like him actually