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    Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
    Carra is clearly a Little Englander
    when it comes to england yes. what's wrong with that?

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      Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
      Carra is clearly a Little Englander
      At least he's not a jock though.
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      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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        I have two 18 year old Irish Internationals living with me here in Mexico, training for 6 months at altitude at my dad in laws team Leones Negros (three months and half in).
        At the end of the 6 months they will be either offered contracts or not. There is a 3 foreigner rule here and 2 Argentinians and a Brazillian are already in the team, they realise that the chances of a contract are slim but they are relishing the opportunity to be the fittest they have ever been and have improved their first touch a million %.

        Their ex club in Ireland didnt have the money to support the reserves and first team and their development was hampered until they came here, the other choices for them were competing with thousands of British kids for the very few places available.

        So the choice to experience Latin football and train at altitude for six months will perhaps lead to a contract here then wouldnt that be a story?

        More realistically though will be the fact that they will probably return with letters of recommendation citing 3 foreigner rule..fit as the preverbial butcher's mutt and in better shape than their rivals for that first foot on the ladder.

        I'm a bit still on the fence over this issue as I see merit and demerit in both arguments re restrictions, but Craig Johnstone mad some very idealistic points which are still resonating.

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          We should send out some of our youngster for a year down to Uruguay. Let them live there for a year to let them feel and learn to play football the South American way.

          The reason to why players like Suso for example is going through a rough patch is that he isn't that big and strong. He must build up his body and during that time he will play worse.

          If he didn't do that then he would be kicked to pieces if we played him in the league.

          He will get better again but it takes time to build up the body.
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            Originally posted by Arn View Post
            We should send out some of our youngster for a year down to Uruguay. Let them live there for a year to let them feel and learn to play football the South American way.

            The reason to why players like Suso for example is going through a rough patch is that he isn't that big and strong. He must build up his body and during that time he will play worse.

            If he didn't do that then he would be kicked to pieces if we played him in the league.

            He will get better again but it takes time to build up the body.
            **** the Moneyball approach. We have Arntopia
            Last edited by Mostar; 08-10-11, 12:10 AM.
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              Originally posted by Mostar View Post
              **** the Moneyball approach. We have Arntopia

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                I think this section of today's Secret Footballer in The Guardian is relevant to the recruitment issue. It's not just about unearthing the next Messi...

                ...Sometimes, however, a splinter group forms for other reasons, like on weeks such as this one, when the majority of a club's squad is away playing international football and a small number are left behind feeling like the players nobody wanted to pick in the school playground. At training grounds all over the country you'll find a curious collection of players either too young, not good enough or, in the case of Jamie Carragher and until the end of last season Scholes, internationally retired.

                "The bomb squad", as it is affectionately known, is often the dregs of a club's playing resources. There would have to be an unprecedented outbreak of cherry blossom poisoning for some of these players to get anywhere near a matchday squad, and for a player who has enjoyed a successful career but is not a current international, the frustration that arises from having to train with some of them surfaces as soon as the sessions start.

                Many of these players are waiting to go out on loan. Brought in from all over the world for a pittance and earning between £200 and £1,000 per week, they are often there to boost a club's bottom line.

                They learn by playing with reserve squads until they are at a level that allows them to compete in a league like the Championship or lower where, if they are successful, their stock will rise and a permanent deal is done for a tidy profit with an option to buy the player back should he go on to great things.

                It is strange to think that there are scouts dedicated to finding players who are not good enough to play for the first team and probably never will be, yet, once trained, can potentially bring in hundreds of thousands of pounds in transfer revenue after only a short time (I've seen a few move for big fees after an impressive loan spell). It is, in effect, scouting for other clubs that don't have an overseas network.

                The job of coaching these sessions on a rainy morning is the equivalent of the graveyard shift on hospital radio; nobody wants to do it but somebody has to. The standard of the training depends on three things: how keen the coach is to be there, how much the players want to be there and how many players are actually present.

                I remember turning up to a session with five players who didn't include a goalkeeper. We had a quick warm-up and tried to have a keep-ball game with one in the middle before the coach, realising it was going nowhere, blew the whistle and said "see you Tuesday"...

                http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/b...internationals
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                Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                  what happened on tuesday?
                  dave of mutilation

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                    They played FIFA and went for some tattoos.

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                      oh, well that's all right then.
                      dave of mutilation

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                        The general stupidity of his comments have already been commented on, but this is a wind-up, isn't it?

                        "For me, you shouldn't have a foreign member of staff," said the former England centre-back.

                        "The best doctor in the country should be the England doctor, the best bus driver and so on."


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                          I don't think he literally means best bus driver, but that the England team and the wider England team/set up should be English. I agree with him. Not because I am patriotic, I'm not, but if international football is to have any meaning whatsoever, it should be a genuine battle of nations. What we have now makes very little sense.

                          Why should the Swiss national team get the benefit of an English manager
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                            I'm not sure if its being mentioned in the thread already about Carragher's England Comments.

                            But he should really STFU. Trying not to be bias as he is a LFC Legend.

                            But has he a short memory. Jamie was the one who quit on England because one of the reasons was he was being dicked around by the previous english manager ; Steve Mclaren.

                            It was only when Capello became manger did that foreigner asked you to come back and saw what talent you really had to offer, which you declined.

                            Not only did he not play any group games during south africa qualifications but he gave you a once in a lifetime opportunity to play at the world cup, which you gladly accepted. How many English managers with a track record as good as Capello's would have done that.

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                              Originally posted by BootRoom View Post
                              The general stupidity of his comments have already been commented on, but this is a wind-up, isn't it?

                              "For me, you shouldn't have a foreign member of staff," said the former England centre-back.

                              "The best doctor in the country should be the England doctor, the best bus driver and so on."


                              How about you concentrate on being the best Centre Half Jamie.

                              Until then, your contract is long enough for you to be the best LFC bus driver ever whilst you finish your Open University doctorate in physio medicine.

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                                Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                                I don't think he literally means best bus driver, but that the England team and the wider England team/set up should be English. I agree with him. Not because I am patriotic, I'm not, but if international football is to have any meaning whatsoever, it should be a genuine battle of nations. What we have now makes very little sense.

                                Why should the Swiss national team get the benefit of an English manager


                                He does mean it; why say it if he doesn't mean it? He already states that the wider England team/set up should be English:

                                "For me, you shouldn't have a foreign member of staff," said the former England centre-back.

                                And then he's goes into a bit of detail. I'm just wondering how the best bus driver is determined.

                                Presumably this extends to things like the best pilot and cabin crew, the best tea lady, etc etc. I can't stop laughing at it.

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