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    #3181
    Originally posted by Nigey View Post
    We pushed him harder in the past because he needed to prove himself.
    What?

    Originally posted by Nigey View Post
    And the expectancy was nowhere near as high as it is now, so it's a completely different situation and not comparable at all.
    Not sure what this means either.
    If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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      #3182
      He was a young player trying to prove himself as opposed to being a player where hopes and expectations are way higher now, which is an entirely different situation.
      Are we winning?

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        #3183
        Originally posted by Nigey View Post
        He was a young player trying to prove himself as opposed to being a player where hopes and expectations are way higher now, which is an entirely different situation.
        I still don't think I follow.

        Are you saying we need to be more careful now that he's an important first team player and it didn't matter as much when he was 17 and we still had the likes of Suarez?
        If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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          #3184
          Yes. Early last year he needed the games to aid in his development. Now he needs resting now and again to aid in his continuous development. He's barely stopped since the world cup.
          Are we winning?

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            #3185
            Originally posted by Nigey View Post
            Yes. Early last year he needed the games to aid in his development. Now he needs resting now and again to aid in his continuous development. He's barely stopped since the world cup.
            Rather than drag this on, I'll just conclude with, I disagree.
            If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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              #3186


              Sorry if I'm not expressing myself well. It's a bit of a pointless discussion anyway. We didn't lose because Sterling was rested.
              Are we winning?

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                #3187
                Originally posted by Nigey View Post


                Sorry if I'm not expressing myself well. It's a bit of a pointless discussion anyway. We didn't lose because Sterling was rested.
                Haha, I agree. Hindsight is great and it may have been a different result with him starting, but as you say, that wasn't why we lost.
                If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                  #3188
                  Originally posted by RedReet View Post
                  Well if you are suggesting that we couldn't drop him 2 years ago despite needing a rest because we didn't have good enough players to come in, then I would argue that under different circumstances he shouldn't have been dropped now either. Yes, we may have still fielded a strong line-up, but with so many question marks over the team (no Sturridge, Balotelli sick, too many new players etc.) the risk was just as big IMO.

                  If we rested him for fear of burn out as Rodgers has indicated, then that's fair enough, even though we seemed to push him harder in the past. I just hope we wasn't rested to keep him fresh for Tuesday, because that would have been a mistake IMO.
                  Nope. I'm arguing that two years ago there was really no choice. Now there is.
                  Oh I don't know.

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                    #3189
                    There was always choice Dom, those choices weren't very appealing though. Right now the choices we have today haven't laid a claim to be a better alternative to Raheem either so until they do he has to be first choice. This season for me should be strongest 11 for the league and rotate for the cups including CL, unlikely we'll win it so decent performance's in it hopefully but crack on with re establishing ourselves as a force in England. We have to get back in the CL next season.

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                      #3190
                      Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                      Nope. I'm arguing that two years ago there was really no choice. Now there is.
                      Then it's the wrong choice clearly. If you're saying he'd have been fit enough to play with Downing, Aspas etc. waiting on the wings, then it should be no different now, especially as he's a lot more important to the team.

                      I'm hoping the decision had nothing to do with who else was available, but because there was a risk involved with playing Sterling, otherwise he should have played.
                      If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                        #3191
                        It's both, no. It's not that black and white.
                        Oh I don't know.

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                          #3192
                          Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                          It's both, no. It's not that black and white.
                          Haha, but you are the one who weighed in to the discussion with terms such as 'night and day' and 'no choice'. Nobody suggested it was black and white, I certainly questioned the various reasons for dropping him, so if anything it was you who tried to simplify it.
                          If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                            #3193
                            No I think you've misunderstood. I was answering your last sentence. He was being rested for a combinations of the reasons you suggested. Previously that wasn't an option due to the piss poor alternatives.
                            Oh I don't know.

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                              #3194
                              Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                              No I think you've misunderstood. I was answering your last sentence. He was being rested for a combinations of the reasons you suggested. Previously that wasn't an option due to the piss poor alternatives.
                              OK, sorry I did pick that up wrong.

                              And I agree, that most likely was the case. But for this hypothetical argument sake, I still maintain it was a greater risk in resting him now due to his importance to the team than there would have been resting him back then when he was understandably inconsistent and was showing visible signs of tiredness.

                              Do you think if we still had that same squad now, that Rodgers would have started Sterling, with this CL game coming on Tuesday?
                              If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                                #3195
                                Quite possibly. I'm not Rodgers though so it's just a wild guess.
                                Oh I don't know.

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