Jordan Henderson

[Venton]

The dm position is hard to define . Some saw Alonso performing that role, but it wasnt until Mascherano filled that role that Alonso could work his magic a but further forward.

Hamman is still the best player I have seen play that position, and he started as a more attacking player at Newcastle. And I do see a bit of Hamman in Henderson.

But then I have been moaning abiut not replacing Mascherano ever since.

I think its clear Henderson is not ready for thar role yet. Maybe his reading of the game is just not good enough.

Agaun, I think Can is alsi better further forward, and doez Keita really have the discipline to sit there considering his offensive potential?

Hamman was top in that job. Always seemed to be in the right place to tackle or just close down the angles when necessary. Loved him.

[Charly]

I know, right?

Most boring **** of a position, but Hamman would be my first name on the team sheet. Noone else could do what he did in our team.

2 examples of how his presence was super important. 2 managers who clearly never knew what I know.

Houllier v Bayer Leverkusen

We were 2-1 up, half an hour to go in the away leg with an away goal. ****ing good position to be in. Houllier apprently wanted more attacking play and took off Hamman for Vladi... we lost 4-3 on aggregate.

Benitez v A C Milan

You all know this one. 3 nil down at half time being pummled. Hamman comes off the bench and suddenly we can even carry Traore and still put 3 past Milan. Smicer came on in that match too.

[rudedog]

Hendo becomes too Ray Wilkins in possession when he plays the deep lying midfielder.

Always preferred him when he plays box to box and breaks quickly

Don't feel he is clever enough on the ball and natural enough to be a playmaker.

He starts talking absolute bollocks in a cockey accent?

[Buzzo]

He starts talking absolute bollocks in a cockey accent?

I think he means he starts driving his car after too many shandy's?

[gratziani]

You should be all doing Klopp's job. So much clairvoyance in here.

I know we should all just agree everyone of our players is great and we are brilliant in every game.

[gratziani]

He starts talking absolute bollocks in a cockey accent?

Sideways and backwards passing

Alonso and Hamman were great at receiving the ball and already knew if they had space to turn into.

[Norbs]

I think he means he starts driving his car after too many shandy's?

[Bender]

From the BBC after England's two WCQ.....
Jordan Henderson (central midfield) 4

Another very poor performance. Spends too much time passing the ball sideways and backwards. Not the midfield creator England need and his place will soon be under threat.

[SB]

From the BBC after England's two WCQ.....
Jordan Henderson (central midfield) 4

Another very poor performance. Spends too much time passing the ball sideways and backwards. Not the midfield creator England need and his place will soon be under threat.

Sounds like his performances for us. If only we had some serious competition for his position as holding mid.

[kev776]

Sounds like his performances for us. If only we had some serious competition for his position as holding mid.

He is playing like this because he is not a holding midfid.

[Fosterbloke]

Julian Weigl would be a good shout for me.

[Fredo]

He is playing like this because he is not a holding midfid.

You mean because he plays as a holding midfielder.

[danperkins]

I'm a fan but he's not been very good since he came back from injury. Could make a case for dropping him, moving Can back to the 6 and getting Phil in the middle.

imo if he wasn't the captain he would have been dropped by now. Agree with lads though he is being played out of position, balance in that midfield has been ****ed for years.

[kev776]

It is nice to have x6 forwards/midfielders chasing rabbits and ****ing the opposition but we must also be flexible enough to protect the back 4 properly when required.

It is no suprise that Leicester suffered and Chelseas fortunes surged when Kante jumped ship. We need a time served defensive midfielder, only then will our defence reduce the number of goals we concede.

[RedReet]

imo if he wasn't the captain he would have been dropped by now. Agree with lads though he is being played out of position, balance in that midfield has been ****ed for years.

You honestly think when Klopp is picking the team that he's thinking 'I'd love to play Can in the holding midifeld role, we'd be so much stronger, but that ****er Henderson is captain, so I'm going to have to put up with his **** again'?