Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Jordan Henderson

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    Originally posted by Pepe79 View Post
    By no means always injured, but to say his injury record is very good is being kind. He’s missed almost a third of our league games over the last 2 seasons through injury. The worry is that’s not going to improve as he gets into his 30s.

    I’m all for having heads like Milner and Henderson around, but I don’t think that it should be necessary for them to continue to be among the top tier earners as they enter the phase of their careers when their playing time naturally recedes.
    Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
    [/B]
    100% this
    Also on the salary thing, can you think of many examples of top players taking a big pay cut on what is likely the final big contract of their career? I can't. It's very rare.

    I accept as a club that leaves us with a difficult decision to make. We made that tough call with Wijnaldum only recently.

    I also think the expectation that one of your best players essentially takes a pay cut just because he's now in his 30s is unrealistic. They won't do that, they'll just go elsewhere as Gini did. I don't think we can allow that to happen with Jordan. It seems the club agree.

    Comment


      Originally posted by Pablo View Post
      Agree Milner is a freak, no doubt about that! However, I think Henderson also takes care of himself extremely well and assuming injuries don't impact him too much I think he will age pretty well. We'll see.



      Henderson:




      Milner:


      I honestly don't see a problem with Henderson's injury record. Not everyone is Luis Suarez.
      Just as I’ve said, missing roughly 30% of games is not great, especially if that continues to deteriorate.

      Milner has played half the league minutes or fewer for the last 4 seasons. More like 1/4 in the last 2. It’s big wages for a squad player.
      .
      .
      .
      .

      Comment


        Originally posted by Pablo View Post
        Also on the salary thing, can you think of many examples of top players taking a big pay cut on what is likely the final big contract of their career? I can't. It's very rare.

        I accept as a club that leaves us with a difficult decision to make. We made that tough call with Wijnaldum only recently.

        I also think the expectation that one of your best players essentially takes a pay cut just because he's now in his 30s is unrealistic. They won't do that, they'll just go elsewhere as Gini did. I don't think we can allow that to happen with Jordan. It seems the club agree.
        He’s already on a very good contract. What would have been so wrong with him continuing on his current contract for the next 2 years then adding short term extensions on a salary reflecting his role in the squad at that point?

        It’s more about how much they’re likely to be playing in the final years of that contract, if someone else if offering them more money and that’s more important to them, then good luck to them.
        .
        .
        .
        .

        Comment


          Originally posted by Pepe79 View Post
          He’s already on a very good contract. What would have been so wrong with him continuing on his current contract for the next 2 years then adding short term extensions on a salary reflecting his role in the squad at that point?

          It’s more about how much they’re likely to be playing in the final years of that contract, if someone else if offering them more money and that’s more important to them, then good luck to them.
          One is a positive move, the other is a negative move. Letting him know he is wanted and rewarding that is more motivating and likely to result in better morale for all those concerned than the doubt of having a valuable player and your captain entering into the final two years of his contract. Throw in the press and we’d have two years of Klopp fielding questions on Hendos future. An new deal with, crucially, the option of a 1 year extension removes all of that - and the negativity it brings with it.

          I don’t have a problem with it at all. It’s a good move.
          Modifying post.

          Comment


            Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
            One is a positive move, the other is a negative move. Letting him know he is wanted and rewarding that is more motivating and likely to result in better morale for all those concerned than the doubt of having a valuable player and your captain entering into the final two years of his contract. Throw in the press and we’d have two years of Klopp fielding questions on Hendos future. An new deal with, crucially, the option of a 1 year extension removes all of that - and the negativity it brings with it.

            I don’t have a problem with it at all. It’s a good move.
            Ultimately, Klopp wanted it and I’m happy he got his way. That’s the most important thing imo.
            .
            .
            .
            .

            Comment


              Originally posted by Pablo View Post
              Also on the salary thing, can you think of many examples of top players taking a big pay cut on what is likely the final big contract of their career? I can't. It's very rare.

              I accept as a club that leaves us with a difficult decision to make. We made that tough call with Wijnaldum only recently.

              I also think the expectation that one of your best players essentially takes a pay cut just because he's now in his 30s is unrealistic. They won't do that, they'll just go elsewhere as Gini did. I don't think we can allow that to happen with Jordan. It seems the club agree.
              Bob Paisley always said sell your players when their legs ha d gone and Fergie did the same. I’m all for Hendo staying but not as a super expensive cheer leader - he can still more than contribute now but let’s see next year and the one after

              Comment


                Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
                Bob Paisley always said sell your players when their legs ha d gone and Fergie did the same. I’m all for Hendo staying but not as a super expensive cheer leader - he can still more than contribute now but let’s see next year and the one after
                I guess I'm just missing the part where his legs have gone? I've not seen any evidence of that. People seem to treat him like he's 35 already. He had one bad injury last season, assuming he's over that his injury record isn't that bad at all. If he was 34 and we were offering him this contract I'd get the reaction, but he's still only 31 and on balance I think it's the right call.

                Comment


                  He should play for free to show that he really loves the club.

                  Comment


                    Originally posted by Pablo View Post
                    Also on the salary thing, can you think of many examples of top players taking a big pay cut on what is likely the final big contract of their career? I can't. It's very rare.

                    I accept as a club that leaves us with a difficult decision to make. We made that tough call with Wijnaldum only recently.

                    I also think the expectation that one of your best players essentially takes a pay cut just because he's now in his 30s is unrealistic. They won't do that, they'll just go elsewhere as Gini did. I don't think we can allow that to happen with Jordan. It seems the club agree.
                    Pique.

                    Comment


                      Originally posted by labourRed View Post
                      Pique.
                      Fowler did similar for us too. As I said it's very rare and usually players from their boyhood clubs that do it.

                      I think if anything you've proved my point.

                      Comment


                        Originally posted by Pablo View Post
                        Fowler did similar for us too. As I said it's very rare and usually players from their boyhood clubs that do it.

                        I think if anything you've proved my point.
                        I was being facetious to be fair.

                        It goes against how united dominated the league for years and that was to bomb them out after a contract or two.

                        Comment


                          Originally posted by spud_gun View Post
                          He should play for free to show that he really loves the club.
                          Take that to the Messi thread
                          Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

                          Comment


                            He looks bit grumpy in the training pics.

                            Comment


                              New contract is signed, 4yr deal, just flashed up on Sky sports.

                              Comment


                                [ame]https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/1432621463354347525[/ame]
                                .
                                .
                                .
                                .

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X