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    Originally posted by MrMichael View Post
    I have to say I don't agree with this. Its easy to forget just how good together both Sami & Henchoz, and then Sami & Carra, were together. Like 5 trophies in a season and Champions League winning good respectively.
    OK, maybe I will rephrase that and say it is my favourite pairing since Hansen and Lawro.

    As a footballing pair of CBs who complement each other they are the best IMO since those 2. Maybe not the most effective or successful yet, but my kind of players.

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      Originally posted by saj View Post
      BUT the Skrtel/Agger have hardly had a decent holding midfielder playing in front of them and are playing in a much weaker team.

      Sami/Henchoz played in a team that was set up to defend. And Sami/Carra quite literally had the best midfield in the world playing in front of them. It's very difficult to compare the 3 pairings but I'd say they are/were alll amazing pairings. In terms of technique, the current pairing is the best by far. But the stats say Sami/Henchoz were the better pairing.
      This, imo, is a perfect example of us overrating our current players. No way are Agger & Skrtel that great together. Good yes, but not great. Just watch Benteke's second goal was it the other day, shocking defending we'd never have seen with Sami & Carra in their pomp. Indeed quite a lot of the goals we've conceded this season have been down to dodgy defending, and not all of that can be blamed on lack of a holding midfielder in those games.

      I like our current pair, but previously we could honestly argue we had the best CB pairing in the league, Europe even. Only with red-tinted specs could someone argue that at the moment.
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        Originally posted by MrMichael View Post
        This, imo, is a perfect example of us overrating our current players. No way are Agger & Skrtel that great together. Good yes, but not great. Just watch Benteke's second goal was it the other day, shocking defending we'd never have seen with Sami & Carra in their pomp. Indeed quite a lot of the goals we've conceded this season have been down to dodgy defending, and not all of that can be blamed on lack of a holding midfielder in those games.

        I like our current pair, but previously we could honestly argue we had the best CB pairing in the league, Europe even. Only with red-tinted specs could someone argue that at the moment.
        Sami and Carra in their pomp played with 2 holding midfielders in front if them - one of them (Alonso) quite honestly being one of the best holding midfielders the game will ever see. Last week, Benteke was allowed to run at the centre back (Skrtel?) from a deep position which never would have happened under Benitez. And this has happened all season mainly as Allen has been the holding midfielder. I think think the tactics and lack of personnel have left our centre backs exposed on more than occasion. The shape of the team has changed completely since Lucas returned and he is not even playing at 50% of his ability yet.

        Look at it another way - how many times have teams been linked with signing Skrtel and Agger - quite a lot! Clearly these 2 are highly rated even by those who are not associated with Liverpool.
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          Was brilliant again today. Our best defender, Agger seems to get more plaudits bit Skrtel is better IMO. One of the very few players that has his shirt with pride these last couple of years.
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            Skrtel is excellent. Seems to me some fans don't give him the praise he deserves simply because they expect him to be less excellent than reality tells us he is.
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              Originally posted by cream View Post
              Was brilliant again today. Our best defender, Agger seems to get more plaudits bit Skrtel is better IMO. One of the very few players that has his shirt with pride these last couple of years.
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                He did plenty good but gave away the foul for the second by being caught wrong side.

                I don't think he's played as well this season as he did last, nor Agger.

                As a pair they've both made mistakes a bit too often this season for me.

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                  Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                  Skrtel is excellent. Seems to me some fans don't give him the praise he deserves simply because they expect him to be less excellent than reality tells us he is.
                  I think some cant get that Man City performance out of their heads.
                  *Except Michael, who died.

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                    Originally posted by Alex View Post
                    I think some cant get that Man City performance out of their heads.
                    His performance was very good, except that ONE pass, as far as I can remember

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                      I cant really remember how he played. But I know a few that still moan about the backpass. In fairness it killed the start of the season for us. Imagine the confidence we would have gotten from beating the champions at the start of the season.
                      *Except Michael, who died.

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                        Originally posted by Alex View Post
                        I cant really remember how he played. But I know a few that still moan about the backpass. In fairness it killed the start of the season for us. Imagine the confidence we would have gotten from beating the champions at the start of the season.
                        That and Suarez' disallowed goal at Everton. Ridiculous decision.

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                          Originally posted by G View Post
                          He did plenty good but gave away the foul for the second by being caught wrong side.

                          I don't think he's played as well this season as he did last, nor Agger.

                          As a pair they've both made mistakes a bit too often this season for me.
                          I don't think they are an ideal partnership. Both very good players but neither seems to dominate the area and they often seem to conspire to leave the other isolated during counter attacks.
                          "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
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                            Carra's been played ahead of Skrtel against both Arsenal & City.

                            Has he picked up a knock? Rumour has it that he's fallen out of favour with the boss since the Oldham game?

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                              Originally posted by magicalbarnes View Post
                              Carra's been played ahead of Skrtel against both Arsenal & City.

                              Has he picked up a knock? Rumour has it that he's fallen out of favour with the boss since the Oldham game?
                              No but he is not preferred option any longer..
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                                Fans Player of the season last year...Should not be dropped imo.

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