Martin Skrtel

[Slinky Skills]

Del means pretty in Welsh. Mae'r ferch yna yn ddel. That girl there is pretty.

Just thought I'd share that anyway.

[ChesterDave]

Probably a better opener than 'slags'

[EwarWoo]

Probably a better opener than 'slags'

Definitely better than I'm going for a **** so you don't get brown fingers.

[Rigadon]

Del means pretty in Welsh. Mae'r ferch yna yn ddel. That girl there is pretty.

Just thought I'd share that anyway.

Da iawn - a heb rhegi

[Mostar]

Never rated him that highly (not sure I do now if I'm brutally honest), but he's had a hell of a season . He's really become a leader by example on the pitch for us and has a real winning mentality. You've got to admire how he handled being frozen out last season. He waited for his chance and he's taken it brilliantly.

He was The Player of The Year when Kenny was still in charge so clearly he was capable of repeating that type of the season.

It will be interesting to see what happens next year as he'll be likely paired with Sakho as first and 2nd choice CBs.

[Darkon]

Set the record for most own goals in a PL season yesterday (4)

Also scored 7, a very good tally for a defender and a net positive of 3

[john316]

Easily could have had more OGs as well!!

[James P]

He was The Player of The Year when Kenny was still in charge so clearly he was capable of repeating that type of the season.

It will be interesting to see what happens next year as he'll be likely paired with Sakho as first and 2nd choice CBs.

This article would suggest that we really don't want to do that - the stats are pretty damning, and based on a pretty even number of games.

[Harv]

He's not good enough defensively. Positioning is all over the shop when we're put under pressure.

[Bender]

seems to lack concentration

[meffin]

I still really don't rate him. With him playing, there's always a good chance of a clanger being dropped.

Good tackler but poor positionally, no leadership, no pace. We need better.

[BigChief]

Set the record for most own goals in a PL season yesterday (4)

Also scored 7, a very good tally for a defender and a net positive of 3

Doesn't quite work like that in my mind, own goals are so devastating they should be 1.5 times a normal goal. So 4 x 1.5 = 6 goals scored in own net. That's a net positive of one goal.

Don't want to rip on the man, he's been our mainstay in a season we finished second. Not picking up injuries or the sort of loss of form Toure had. But next season we'll need better as already mentioned.

[Fredo]

seems to lack concentration

Yep. Only a lack of concentration can explain why he would try to score at our end.

[Paul12]

If we want to improve on this season, we need to upgrade our centre backs.

[Chris]

He's not good enough defensively. Positioning is all over the shop when we're put under pressure.

Yep.

He is so average it's painful.

Newcastle away, a completely needless foul out wide, then on the free kick not even sure what he was trying to do here, ball was there to be headed away but he just barges their guy instead, goes through to Dummet? who scores.

Everton away, a bit similar to Newcastle, rather than challenging he's more into barging around when he should win the header, drops to Mirallas and goal.

Hull away, scared to come forward v Livermore, backs off, gives him all the time in the world so Livermore takes it and scores. 2nd goal, looks like Toure is going to head away comfortably until Skrtel comes over, gets in the way, they collide and Hull end up scoring. 3rd, he's dragged out wide but backs off, and off, and off until he's nearly on top of Mig then nods it to his own net, though the own goal part was just bad luck in this situation.

West Ham home, another own goal, defending way too deep.

City away, pathetic marking on Kompany for the 1st, more interested in grappling than doing his job. 2nd goal all he has to do is stay with Negredo and let Sakho chase Navas but he leaves Negredo giving Navas a simple pass to put him through on goal and score.

Chelsea away, abysmal marking on Samuel Eto'o who puts in the winner.

Stoke away, backs off and off Charlie Adam before a half hearted close down at the end goes straight through his legs and in to our net.

Fulham away, ball straight in behind him, he's in no mans land their guy crosses it in for Kolo's comedy own goal. 2nd goal, Flanagan is going to deal with it but no he tries some daft clearance and it goes straight to Richardson who taps in.

Arsenal away in the Cup, goes for a ball on a set piece, completely misses it, lands to Sanogo, shot blocked and Ox scores the rebound.

Swansea home, gives away the penalty thats been threatening to happen all season.

Cardiff away, loses Kenwyne Jones who nods down for a tap in for their guy.

Palace away, just completely stupid going for a ball he couldnt get anywhere near, Murray has a simple knockdown to put Gayle through on goal who scores.

Newcastle home, some of his own goals are just unlucky, this was down to dreadful concentration though, days after the manager had a go at the players for crap concentration!

Thats 17 goals I've listed there he should have done better on in my opinion, 17!!! 4 or 5 mistakes a season yeah you expect that, they're human but this is just a ridiculous amount. Interestingly 14 of the 17 are away from Anfield, natural maybe given home teams attack more or a sign he doesnt handle being out of his comfort zone particularly well?

Then theres loads of moments that didnt get punished like Lallana's shot that hit the post, O'Shea's last minute sitter at Anfield, Anelka through on goal at Anfield, mullered by Aguero out wide who passed to Silva who thankfully missed, all his mistakes. It's shambolic, he's had some excellent games along with the bad ones too, scored some massive goals and he isn't the only one responsible on all these goals but it's daft carrying a centre back like this, desperately needs upgrading. Our best defensive performances under Rodgers come last season when he got dropped. 2 clean sheets in 2 league games when he didnt start this season aswell.