Martin Skrtel

[danperkins]

Random this, but mate went to Everton night Joe Royle & Neville Southall at it last week. He was sitting with Southall & Southall said he thinks Lloris is the best keeper in the league... big fan of his.

Lloris makes some ridiculous saves & reminds me of Reina coming off his line.. acts like a sweeper. Although he has been done a few times doing that.

[Fredo]

Gonna say - seen a lot of praise for Lloris, who undoubtedly makes great saves. But he also makes loads of howlers, flapper too. Wouldn't touch him with a bargepole.

He does make howlers but his reading of the game is the best of any keeper in the league currently. He can be rash, but he can be taught to reign in his instincts at times.

[baitman]

skrtel often steps out to make an important block or interception. when it comes off he looks like a monster machine. when it doesnt

i notice johnson not closing down or out of position, then skrtel is then trying to make last ditch blocks. as skrtel steps out it leaves a big gap for the attacker to knock the ball into should skrtel miss it.

like i and others have said many times, agger is the best organiser, and in his absence skrtel gets suckered out of position by the piss poor play to his right.

[danperkins]

skrtel often steps out to make an important block or interception. when it comes off he looks like a monster machine. when it doesnt

i notice johnson not closing down or out of position, then skrtel is then trying to make last ditch blocks. as skrtel steps out it leaves a big gap for the attacker to knock the ball into should skrtel miss it.

like i and others have said many times, agger is the best organiser, and in his absence skrtel gets suckered out of position by the piss poor play to his right.

has happened so many times this season.

[Exiled_red]

If we had someone like Sami Hyypia this season, we would have pissed the league.

Personally I don't think it's just down to the players I think it is partly the system, I think whoever we had back there would have had a difficult time because so often they are exposed. No matter how good Sami was he had alot of protection in the form of Didi Hamann.

For me the CBs don't suit the system either we need to get players who fit the system, or change the system to help the players we have

[G]

The system won't change and nor should it. Brendan spoke earlier in the season about the issues being down to players and not the system, said he couldn't coach the bad things out of the players. He spoke again before Newcastle and emphasised several times thats its down to concentration and decision making why we concede so many, especially away from home.Yet at the same time he said he wanted to improve our goals scored last season and did it,this pre season the focus will be on the goals against and improvng there.

I've only seen us linked with 1 CB and a couple of left backs so that conflicts for me because if we can't coach them and improve them we would should be shipping them out en masse and replacing them with better ones. The fact we haven't been linked with loads of defenders suggests that won't be the case. So I wonder what the plan is!

[RichC]

I'd suggest we'll bring in at least two defenders this Summer 1 CB and a fullback of some description i.e. not sure if LB, RB or could do either.

As you've mentioned I think it's the players that are making the individual errors and not really the system, it then gets compounded by there being little to no trust in each other to take command or do what needs doing hence the number of errors being made on an individual level.

[kop-al-74]

Personally I don't think it's just down to the players I think it is partly the system, I think whoever we had back there would have had a difficult time because so often they are exposed. No matter how good Sami was he had alot of protection in the form of Didi Hamann.

For me the CBs don't suit the system either we need to get players who fit the system, or change the system to help the players we have

Not sure I agree with that....it isn't the system that gave the ball away away to WBA when we were coasting...or the system that had Skrtel in no mans land for the third against Palace. There is many more but those are two that just stood out to me.

[Exiled_red]

Not sure I agree with that....it isn't the system that gave the ball away away to WBA when we were coasting...or the system that had Skrtel in no mans land for the third against Palace. There is many more but those are two that just stood out to me.

Yes there are individual errors and a lot of them, but players are more likely to make these types of errors if they are not suited to the system, the same players made less of these types of errors when playing in a different system.

As I said previously it leaves two options either change the system or sign players who are more suited to the system. As Rodgers doesn't want to change the system I guess we should be looking to sign new CBs in the summer.

[Roboklopp]

Really wish LDP would lay the **** off Skrtel. Ok, you might not think he's up to the job for champions but he got us into second place. Show some respect.

[Rich]

Owing to the system we're playing being a very good centreback isn't enough. We need to find a world class one. We don't offer the kind of protection that Terry and Cahill enjoy at Chelsea.

As harsh as that is on Skrtel we should look to upgrade him if possible.

[G]

Owing to the system we're playing being a very good centreback isn't enough. We need to find a world class one. We don't offer the kind of protection that Terry and Cahill enjoy at Chelsea.

As harsh as that is on Skrtel we should look to upgrade him if possible.

You need only to look at those cunts up the road, haven't had a midfield for years yet score for fun and don't concede many, until this year that is! They had two excellent CB's in Ferdinand and Vidic who were able to cope.

[Fierce]

Really wish LDP would lay the **** off Skrtel. Ok, you might not think he's up to the job for champions but he got us into second place. Show some respect.

Yep.

He is so average it's painful.

Newcastle away etc etc....

, a completely needless foul out wide, then on the free kick not even sure what he was trying to do here, ball was there to be headed away but he just barges their guy instead, goes through to Dummet? who scores.

Everton away, a bit similar to Newcastle, rather than challenging he's more into barging around when he should win the header, drops to Mirallas and goal.

Hull away, scared to come forward v Livermore, backs off, gives him all the time in the world so Livermore takes it and scores. 2nd goal, looks like Toure is going to head away comfortably until Skrtel comes over, gets in the way, they collide and Hull end up scoring. 3rd, he's dragged out wide but backs off, and off, and off until he's nearly on top of Mig then nods it to his own net, though the own goal part was just bad luck in this situation.

West Ham home, another own goal, defending way too deep.

City away, pathetic marking on Kompany for the 1st, more interested in grappling than doing his job. 2nd goal all he has to do is stay with Negredo and let Sakho chase Navas but he leaves Negredo giving Navas a simple pass to put him through on goal and score.

Chelsea away, abysmal marking on Samuel Eto'o who puts in the winner.

Stoke away, backs off and off Charlie Adam before a half hearted close down at the end goes straight through his legs and in to our net.

Fulham away, ball straight in behind him, he's in no mans land their guy crosses it in for Kolo's comedy own goal. 2nd goal, Flanagan is going to deal with it but no he tries some daft clearance and it goes straight to Richardson who taps in.

Arsenal away in the Cup, goes for a ball on a set piece, completely misses it, lands to Sanogo, shot blocked and Ox scores the rebound.

Swansea home, gives away the penalty thats been threatening to happen all season.

Cardiff away, loses Kenwyne Jones who nods down for a tap in for their guy.

Palace away, just completely stupid going for a ball he couldnt get anywhere near, Murray has a simple knockdown to put Gayle through on goal who scores.

Newcastle home, some of his own goals are just unlucky, this was down to dreadful concentration though, days after the manager had a go at the players for crap concentration!

Thats 17 goals I've listed there he should have done better on in my opinion, 17!!! 4 or 5 mistakes a season yeah you expect that, they're human but this is just a ridiculous amount. Interestingly 14 of the 17 are away from Anfield, natural maybe given home teams attack more or a sign he doesnt handle being out of his comfort zone particularly well?

Then theres loads of moments that didnt get punished like Lallana's shot that hit the post, O'Shea's last minute sitter at Anfield, Anelka through on goal at Anfield, mullered by Aguero out wide who passed to Silva who thankfully missed, all his mistakes. It's shambolic, he's had some excellent games along with the bad ones too, scored some massive goals and he isn't the only one responsible on all these goals but it's daft carrying a centre back like this, desperately needs upgrading. Our best defensive performances under Rodgers come last season when he got dropped. 2 clean sheets in 2 league games when he didnt start this season aswell

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This constant "He's 3rd in the MOTM etc etc.....

table, proof he's amazing" stuff is bizarre. First off, you can have 10 great performances, 20 **** ones and be high up because of how the points work. Secondly, this apparently accurate table has Martin Skrtel ahead of Steven Gerrard and miles ahead of Daniel Sturridge and Aspas who started 5 league games above Flanno who started 23.

I'm going to dare to disagree with the table and say Skrtel hasn't had a better season than Steven Gerrard or Sturridge. Aspas and Victor Moses havent had better seasons than Flanno. Thirdly, this great MOTM table didnt seem to mean much last season when Perkins spent the summer slagging of Reina's season who come 4th in this incredibly accurate table or Kolo Toure earlier this season despite the fact he was 3rd in January but now it means everything. Hypocrisy and desperation, got to love it.

Relentless. But difficult to disagree with

[Bender]

"I have a cracked fibula of the left leg. Means that the next two to three weeks I have to indulge rest. Regret to me that I look like this early in the season, which I really enjoyed. However, I believe that after three weeks, I will definitely re- play, "said 29-year-old Martin Skrtel for the Saturday edition of the Sport.
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[kingfunk]

Fractured fibula? We won't see him for at least 5 weeks.