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    Originally posted by wiw View Post
    I honestly don't give a **** about his bank balance, who cares? He's a professional at the elite end of the sport who will pride himself on results and winning, who is visibly upset because we have lost and might have lost his job. He is the Liverpool manager who speaks warmly about the club and fans and as a fellow human being i really feel for him. It staggers me that people can't feel a bit of compassion towards him.
    Well said, mate. There's no denying Rodgers's affection for the club at all. We've just been totally, totally **** this season to the point where surely the jig has to be up for him.

    If FSG acquire some magical intuitiveness and keep him and he goes on to be a great then fair play FSG but as it stands the most obvious route for us based on this season is more mediocrity. The laws of averages are against him turning it round, he should probably go now but there's no need for people to be absolute thundercunts about him in the process.
    A lot of people run a race to see who is fastest. I run to see who has the most guts, who can punish himself into exhausting pace, and then at the end, punish himself even more.

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      Originally posted by wiw View Post
      I honestly don't give a **** about his bank balance, who cares? He's a professional at the elite end of the sport who will pride himself on results and winning, who is visibly upset because we have lost and might have lost his job. He is the Liverpool manager who speaks warmly about the club and fans and as a fellow human being i really feel for him. It staggers me that people can't feel a bit of compassion towards him.
      I get that, I just save my compassion for other areas

      I think he has given it everything he gas got and has come up short, fair play to him for that. I genuinely don't feel sorry for him though, precisely because he is a professional at the elite end of sport. I doubt he wants our sympathy right now.
      Modifying post.

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        FSG have to shoulder some of the blame for this. It was a huge risk bringing in a small time manager with no experiencing of winning trophies to a club of this size. It has a massive knock on effect with the players we can attract and sends out the wrong message.

        It looked like they got things right last season but it all does point to Suarez and Sturridge being on fire and a feel good factor. The whole philosophy has fallen apart.

        The only way we can turn this around is to bring in a manager with a fantastic record and reputation. Everything else should then begin to fall into place, but FSG also need to know that they can't do things on the cheap.
        SakhoPotatoes

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          He hasn't helped himself.
          What a starting line-up - FFS
          Can at right back, no strikers.

          It was the last game of the season why not try two forwards and the diamond? the starting lineup set the tone for the day, a proper ****fest.
          He’s here! I *know* he’s here! That’s him, I’m telling you that’s him! You hear me? I’m telling you it’s *Keyser Soze*!

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            Adrian Puddephatt ‏@Adrian357Adrian 8m8 minutes ago
            @neiljonesecho @redlfc180 what's your gut feeling on Rodgers job Neil?

            Neil Jones @neiljonesecho · 9m9 minutes ago
            @Adrian357Adrian @redlfc180 Everything I've heard has been "safe". But he can't be.

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              Originally posted by Venton View Post
              If you talking about Balotelli and Lambert I do not agree that he did - neither of them are a fit. Hence my comment about his poor transfer record.
              between balotelli, lambert and borini im sure one was fit though i may be wrong

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                Forgetting today's result and our recent form, we need a new direction. As a club we're a mess. We have strikers who don't score, defenders who can't defend and probably the weakest midfield I can ever remember us having. There is such a lack of quality and yet we've spent plenty of money. Rodgers will be sacked I'm sure of it, but really the owners are to blame. We're much more stable than we were under Hicks and Gillett, but their decision making has been really poor. They seem like sensible people, but they have allowed this mess to develop. Rebuilding the club is clearly a much more difficult task than the owners anticipated, I'm not sure that they have the money and the nous to take us forward - certainly now that FFP is being relaxed. I'd like to think that FSG would make enquiries about selling us to a wealthier more ambitious owner.

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                  We made one foul in the first half . Just one. Same lack of fight put in by these players since the United game.

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                    hypothetical, but if Klopp does replace Rodgers he's going to be limited in what he can do if we adapt the same chronic approach to player recruitment as we have under the current regime. The whole things needs a complete overhaul
                    Kurtangled in the McFadden thread 16/01/08

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                      No way we change the manager this summer and leave everything else as it is. No way.
                      Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                        Liverpool FC Talking Point: If plenty of fans were still ‘undecided’ on Rodgers' future, then this was enough to change their minds

                        18:48, 24 MAY 2015
                        BY NEIL JONES

                        Increasing majority of Reds believe last season, not this, was the exception to the rule where Rodgers is concerned

                        Prior to this game, Brendan Rodgers was asked by the media if he believed he would be Liverpool’s manager next season.

                        “Yes, yes, 150 per cent,” was his tub-thumping answer.

                        If he is still of that opinion now, then he’s either the bravest man alive, or he’s kidding himself.

                        There are lows and then there are lows. In a footballing sense, this was as bad as it gets, the most embarrassing afternoon imaginable, both for Rodgers and for Liverpool Football Club. Disgraceful barely does it justice.

                        Rodgers was berated as he passed the travelling Reds fans on his way to the dressing room at half time. It wasn’t a nice sight, but then Liverpool were 5-0 down. At Stoke. At half time, having conceded all the goals in the space of 22 horrific minutes. In all honesty, he was lucky any Reds had stayed long enough to confront him.

                        “They have every right to be angry and frustrated,” he said. “That was awful, absolutely awful.”

                        If there were still plenty of supporters in the ‘undecided’ camp when it comes to the manager’s future, then this was enough to change their minds. This was a performance so bad, it had to be seen to be believed. A sackable offence? Time will tell.

                        Rodgers’ end-of-season review with the American owners next week – “a formality”, he felt last week – will now be a more than uncomfortable experience. He may be able to offer mitigation for an underwhelming season, or show the logic behind his increasingly strange team selections, but to explain a capitulation, a humiliation, like this? All the best.

                        This was a performance worse than anything the club offered up under either Roy Hodgson or Kenny Dalglish

                        To be fair to him, he didn’t even try to here. Usually a bullish, confident character in front of the cameras, here his demeanour reflected his team’s performance; humbled, humiliated, beaten. That pained, haunted look, we’ve seen it before. It was the look of a man worried about his job.

                        “If the owners ask me to go, then I go,” he said. By the end of next week, we will know whether they’ve asked.

                        If they do, then what a horrendous way to sign off – with the club’s worst competitive defeat for 52 years, with supporters jeering, players hiding. And with an increasing majority believing that last season, not this, was the exception to the rule where Rodgers is concerned.

                        There’s no sugar coating it; this was a performance worse than anything the club offered up under either Roy Hodgson or Kenny Dalglish, both of whom lost their jobs pretty swiftly under Fenway Sports Group.

                        Of course, the noises out of Anfield throughout this season, even during the darkest moments, have been that Rodgers is NOT in danger of becoming the latest managerial casualty.

                        “He’s our man,” was the message after defeat to Crystal Palace in November, and repeated following the FA Cup semi final defeat to Aston Villa in April. The manager’s position was “not even up for discussion.”

                        It’ll be being discussed now, though. Loudly. You can bet your bottom dollar on that one.



                        There is no way he is surviving this. The echo haven't even bothered making excuses for him this time.

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                          It's pretty telling when the Echo are running stories like that, usually they are so pro Rodgers it's untrue.
                          Kurtangled in the McFadden thread 16/01/08

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                            Originally posted by Gazzla View Post
                            It's pretty telling when the Echo are running stories like that, usually they are so pro Rodgers it's untrue.

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                              Originally posted by ric.williams View Post
                              between balotelli, lambert and borini im sure one was fit though i may be wrong
                              Sorry, meant fit for the system rather than uninjured. I don't mind the risk with Balotelli but Borini didn't work first time round and Lambert is too slow.
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                                Originally posted by Gazzla View Post
                                It's pretty telling when the Echo are running stories like that, usually they are so pro Rodgers it's untrue.
                                Rats deserting the sinking ship.

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