Brendan Rodgers

[Exiled_red]

Me too, IMO it is really important for managers, in any business, to surround themselves with the right people so he's hopefully good but I would have liked to see more big club experience.

I think this shows that Rodgers sacked Marsh and Pascoe, he's getting his own man again, which is maybe for the best seeing they work together, and he'll have experience of Pepijn.

Even if the coach isn't someone who has experience of winning things as a coach or assistant manager, if they had experience of being in successful sides as a player that would be valuable experience. I think one of the things that we have lacked over recent years in the knowledge of how to be successful, I feel at times that in certain situations our play has been somewhat niave at times and I feel that someone with more experience of successful side (or someone a little more cynical) could have removed that element from the game. Rodgers seems to be somewhat of a purist in terms of how he wants to play the game but at times you need that dirty DM in there to fight for control of the game, having a coach/assistant who can bring that edge into our game at times would be useful IMO.

[The_weatherman]

Even if the coach isn't someone who has experience of winning things as a coach or assistant manager, if they had experience of being in successful sides as a player that would be valuable experience. I think one of the things that we have lacked over recent years in the knowledge of how to be successful, I feel at times that in certain situations our play has been somewhat niave at times and I feel that someone with more experience of successful side (or someone a little more cynical) could have removed that element from the game. Rodgers seems to be somewhat of a purist in terms of how he wants to play the game but at times you need that dirty DM in there to fight for control of the game, having a coach/assistant who can bring that edge into our game at times would be useful IMO.

Did our new assistant play to a good level? Anyway I think I can agree with you, we lack nous on and off the pitch, maybe Milner can provide some on it but the coaching side is still a bit short.

[EwarWoo]

oh come on, the way people are talking about the staff we may as well not appoint any, they're obviously not important at all! Makes you wonder why we bother hiring and firing these people that are no more important to the club than sweet trollies!. Lets just get the Diddy men in eh, bound not to make any difference at all

We may as well not bother with the tea lady or the CEO's PA or the catering staff etc then as we don't have melodramatic meltdowns that they're not a coup.

[The_weatherman]

We may as well not bother with the tea lady or the CEO's PA or the catering staff etc then as we don't have melodramatic meltdowns that they're not a coup.

This is a bit melodramatic TBH.

[Vermilion]

We may as well not bother with the tea lady or the CEO's PA or the catering staff etc then as we don't have melodramatic meltdowns that they're not a coup.

omg. if you class "i was hoping for a coup" as a melodramatic meltdown, carry on. For the record, that coup i was hoping for was Paco.

edit: I know i know, i was stupid to even consider that he may become our assistant manager, i mean why would he, what's LFC to him.

Doin my best to be melodramatic here btw.

ps. Tell me you are happier with who we got rather than if Paco had been hired in a big coup? Go on! Tell me!

[Vermilion]

This is a bit melodramatic TBH.

[BobTheCharmer]

Never heard of him. Never heard of Pascoe either so makes no difference. Defo looks like Brendan sacked his mate and appointed this fella which is certainly ruthless (and a bit snide too sacrificing his staff to save himself) . Better work.

This is strange to me. As you know a lot about football I would have thought you'd have heard about both of them even if you couldn't pick them from a lineup.

[G]

Thanks Bob, nice to be highly thought of.

[Exiled_red]

Did our new assistant play to a good level? Anyway I think I can agree with you, we lack nous on and off the pitch, maybe Milner can provide some on it but the coaching side is still a bit short.

He spent most of his career at Bournemouth and won 3 international caps for the Republic of Ireland, since then he has managed Bournemouth, Doncaster Rovers, Crawley Town, Nottingham Forest and Bristol City before his current role with England U19s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_O%27Driscoll

[Chazza]

He never managed Crawley in a competitive match.

FWIW alot of Forest fans speak very highly of him and say he never should have got the bullet.

[BobTheCharmer]

Thanks Bob, nice to be highly thought of.

Was being serious.

[peekay]

fwiw, i have no problem with it being discussed and fair enough if someone believes this lack of experience has been a factor in team performances but i think its a soft excuse and not one to get particuarly passionate about.

The players performances have simply not been good enough, the manager takes a portion of the criticism too but he isn't inexperienced despite his young age, because he wasn't a player he has more than 20 years coaching experience already. hypothetically speaking i don't believe last season would have been any different if you had Zinedine Zidane as assistant manager and few are more respected than him in the world of football.

this argument of lack of experience at the top level amongst the coaching staff is given too much weight.

We will have to agree to disagree on the experience issue. I did not mean experience for experience sake. We had a manager who had 35 years of experience of managing Swedish and Swiss teams and it did not work out well. I meant experience at the highest level in terms of winning things, in terms of managing the squad between European games and the league.

Rodgers, O'Driscoll, and Linjers seem to be cut from the same cloth - purists, attacking football, can talk the talk in terms of technicians, movements, options etc. But between the three of them they have won a sum total of zero and very little experience in European football at the highest level. I think individually all three of them are brilliant coaches in the right setup. But I don't think we have the right setup - it is too much of the same.

Our coaching setup seems like an experiment to try out these purists attacking technician coaches with no plan B and see if it works out. Maybe it will work out. But given that this is the fourth year of this experiment, patience is running out.

[Havors]

We will have to agree to disagree on the experience issue. I did not mean experience for experience sake. We had a manager who had 35 years of experience of managing Swedish and Swiss teams and it did not work out well. I meant experience at the highest level in terms of winning things, in terms of managing the squad between European games and the league.

Rodgers, O'Driscoll, and Linjers seem to be cut from the same cloth - purists, attacking football, can talk the talk in terms of technicians, movements, options etc. But between the three of them they have won a sum total of zero and very little experience in European football at the highest level. I think individually all three of them are brilliant coaches in the right setup. But I don't think we have the right setup - it is too much of the same.

Our coaching setup seems like an experiment to try out these purists attacking technician coaches with no plan B and see if it works out. Maybe it will work out. But given that this is the fourth year of this experiment, patience is running out.

All three of them would make ok assistants to a proven experienced successful manager. Tell them players like Firmino, Sturridge, Coutinho how things were done at Bournemouth, Swansea and in heads n volleys at the academy.

[wiw]

Bit annoyed with this, especially as Hoddle is available.

[Corndog]

We will have to agree to disagree on the experience issue. I did not mean experience for experience sake. We had a manager who had 35 years of experience of managing Swedish and Swiss teams and it did not work out well. I meant experience at the highest level in terms of winning things, in terms of managing the squad between European games and the league.

Rodgers, O'Driscoll, and Linjers seem to be cut from the same cloth - purists, attacking football, can talk the talk in terms of technicians, movements, options etc. But between the three of them they have won a sum total of zero and very little experience in European football at the highest level. I think individually all three of them are brilliant coaches in the right setup. But I don't think we have the right setup - it is too much of the same.

Our coaching setup seems like an experiment to try out these purists attacking technician coaches with no plan B and see if it works out. Maybe it will work out. But given that this is the fourth year of this experiment, patience is running out.

I get your point about plan B but not sure that it would make much of a difference if they differed in styles because Rodgers has always seemed so attached to his philosophy and he has the final say in matters being the manager and all.