Brendan Rodgers

[Vermilion]

Problem is that while we're being the good little nerds and everyone else is spending big - their squads are getting even better than ours so when the FFP dust settles, they'll pay a fine or get a new sponsorship deal and we'll be out the top four for good.

This is the worry, and even after the ffp settles, these people will find a way to increase turnover in some way that enables them to spend large amounts, i have no faith at all that ffp is going to be this clubs saviour, and even the playing field.

[Captain Stu]

This is the worry, and even after the ffp settles, these people will find a way to increase turnover in some way that enables them to spend large amounts, i have no faith at all that ffp is going to be this clubs saviour, and even the playing field.

Exactly, FFP isn't go to save Liverpool - it's potentially going to bury us while other people deal with it better unless we start seriously ramping up our income.

[Captain Stu]

but maybe old Roman is not as bonkers as many make out.

Once you say this - your point is null and void.

[BootRoom]

Before I make this point let me add the disclaimer :-I don't think we should do what Chelsea do however

Starting with Jose which was Roman's first full season,Chelsea have had 7 managers under Abramovich and have won 9 trophies in that time

Arsenal have had the same manager all that time and won the FA cup once.

The bags of cash clearly make a difference but maybe old Roman is not as bonkers as many make out.

If its not working he makes a change and backs the new man.

We made a change cos it wasn't working and haven't backed the new man.

He said himself decisions are out of his hands on transfers.

Can you clarify this point in terms of what decisions are out of his hands?

[G]

Can you clarify this point in terms of what decisions are out of his hands?

Its at the end of this article I posted from the Anfield wrap

http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=2529307&postcount=2076

[G]

Once you say this - your point is null and void.

His trophy count adds something to the debate. He's made some poor choices but he's made some good ones too.

[Tee]

Why get het up about Bodge trying to get shut of Agger? He (Agger) is 'only decen't', right? Surely it would have been no hardship to get another 'decent' defender in, and you never know, we could easily got a somebody better than 'decent' that would be more help to us now.

Plenty of 'decent' centre backs out there. Ashley Williams for example.

[Captain Stu]

His trophy count adds something to the debate. He's made some poor choices but he's made some good ones too.

For each trophy, there's copious amounts of money (yes, that old chestnut again) being spent to release managers from their contract and then pay them off when they're sacked.

[G]

For each trophy, there's copious amounts of money (yes, that old chestnut again) being spent to release managers from their contract and then pay them off when they're sacked.

He can afford it so who's to say he's wrong?

We've sacked a fair few ourselves and we don't have the trophies to show for it.

Yes money makes a difference but its not the be all and end all as Rafa proved,he didn't have much but he had us up there challenging Romans Multi million squad.

[BootRoom]

Its at the end of this article I posted from the Anfield wrap


http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/show...postcount=2076

Ok, thanks. I interpreted his quote to mean that the final decision to sign an older player rests with the board.

But on transfers generally, that's the way we've always operated; it's always the board that has had the final say on whether to authorise a transfer.

[G]

Ok, thanks. I interpreted his quote to mean that the final decision to sign an older player rests with the board.

But on transfers generally, that's the way we've always operated; it's always the board that has had the final say on whether to authorise a transfer.

Yes but the premise of the lads point is this is the same board who 2 seasons ago had no clue about football and they are now telling their manager who he can and can't sign.The same manager who said in his first press conference that he called the shots and he wouldn't have it any other way.

IMO We'll get nowhere fast adopting an 23 or under only approach and Rodgers knows it and can't do anything about it.

[G]

If he identifies someone who could be the difference between finishing 6th or finishing 4th yet he can't sign him cos he's 28 or whatever then he'll be the one getting the flack from supporters when the 22 year old he is allowed to sign doesn't make an instant impact.

Not a great set of circumstances IMO.

[el matador]

Van Persie is the sort of player we signed during our pomp. A player who would deliver immediate results and look like a Liverpool player straight away.

those days are over now because we won't be signing anyone over 25/26 imo unless they're a freebie transfer. I can see what fsg are trying to achieve but its very hard to be very competitive with a very young team.

But having said that we have Reina Johnson agger skrtel Enrique Lucas who are all experienced players.

its a tough one but i agree with fsg on this. As long as we keep our experienced players to help the younger ones come through.

[BootRoom]

Yes but the premise of the lads point is this is the same board who 2 seasons ago had no clue about football and they are now telling their manager who he can and can't sign.The same manager who said in his first press conference that he called the shots and he wouldn't have it any other way.

IMO We'll get nowhere fast adopting an 23 or under only approach and Rodgers knows it and can't do anything about it.

I find it hard to believe that this wasn't discussed during the interview process. Rodgers only came on board when FSG dropped their "continental structure" aspirations, citing that he needs to be in control, or in control of the technical group responsible for player recruitment, so I don't think they would wait untill he was under contract to spring this surprise on him.

I'm not saying I agree with the policy, as I think a blanket ban on signing players over a certain age is too restrictive; I'm just not convinced by Brendan's "it's out of my hands" sighing.

[G]

Van Persie is the sort of player we signed during our pomp. A player who would deliver immediate results and look like a Liverpool player straight away.

those days are over now because we won't be signing anyone over 25/26 imo unless they're a freebie transfer. I can see what fsg are trying to achieve but its very hard to be very competitive with a very young team.

But having said that we have Reina Johnson agger skrtel Enrique Lucas who are all experienced players.

its a tough one but i agree with fsg on this. As long as we keep our experienced players to help the younger ones come through.

And yet if we sign Butland that's Reina gone IMO. This after Rodgers sadi he's not in the market for a keeper and Reina is No.1.

Jones didn't sign a new contract to be third choice and we won't spend £6m on Butland for him to be in the reserves.

Reina the only keeper with good sale value and that's what appears to be happening.