Brendan Rodgers

[Vermilion]

He's just lowering expectations, but someone should have told him Bodger already did that.

[Bender]

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[Vermilion]

Fair enough, but he should know how the media will spin his interviews and sometimes less is more. Thats all I am saying.

Agree totally, less talk more walk.

It's also absolutely something top players wont be wanting to hear when thinking about joing LFC, or players that are here for that matter.

Suarez will be loving this.

Does not sound like a manager thats backing himself to win things, more like one setting out excuses in advance. imo.

[Tee]

But didn't we have a Manager (in Hodgson ) who the media loved?

[MrMichael]

Fair enough, but he should know how the media will spin his interviews and sometimes less is more. Thats all I am saying.

Yeah, I suppose so, but I guess the media will always find something to spin and sell papers, if he starts being too guarded they'll make him out to be standoffish or hostile and start stirring trouble that way.

I think we learned back in Rafa's day only to pay attention to what is actually said in these interviews, not what the media want us to think is said, I see no reason not to do the same with Rodgers.

[MrMichael]

Agree totally, less talk more walk.

It's also absolutely something top players wont be wanting to hear when thinking about joing LFC, or players that are here for that matter.

Suarez will be loving this.

Does not sound like a manager thats backing himself to win things, more like one setting out excuses in advance. imo.

Nonsense mate, read the quotes. He's saying he wants to build from the ground up, bring us sustainable long term success built on a stable footing. If I were an up and coming young player, that's exactly the sort of club I'd want to be joining. Lets face it, we simply can't compete currently with the Citys and Chelsea's for the huge fee/salary "top" players who want success right now, nor should we be trying to, we should be building something sustainable, within our means, that will see the club flourish in the future. Nothing wrong with that at all, and plenty of good players will still come to Anfield for that type of project. Hell, Suarez signed when we were floundering in the league and Torres was about to **** off to get that elusive success, I can't see him suddenly having a problem now.

[RichC]

Nonsense mate, read the quotes. He's saying he wants to build from the ground up, bring us sustainable long term success built on a stable footing. If I were an up and coming young player, that's exactly the sort of club I'd want to be joining. Lets face it, we simply can't compete currently with the Citys and Chelsea's for the huge fee/salary "top" players who want success right now, nor should we be trying to, we should be building something sustainable, within our means, that will see the club flourish in the future. Nothing wrong with that at all, and plenty of good players will still come to Anfield for that type of project. Hell, Suarez signed when we were floundering in the league and Torres was about to **** off to get that elusive success, I can't see he'd have a problem now.

[Vermilion]

Nonsense mate, read the quotes. He's saying he wants to build from the ground up, bring us sustainable long term success built on a stable footing. If I were an up and coming young player, that's exactly the sort of club I'd want to be joining. Lets face it, we simply can't compete currently with the Citys and Chelsea's for the huge fee/salary "top" players who want success right now, nor should we be trying to, we should be building something sustainable, within our means, that will see the club flourish in the future. Nothing wrong with that at all, and plenty of good players will still come to Anfield for that type of project. Hell, Suarez signed when we were floundering in the league and Torres was about to **** off to get that elusive success, I can't see him suddenly having a problem now.

Still sounds like lowering expectations to me, something Bodger was crucified over.

Time will tell.

So do we all expect 4th as a minimum now as it was for Kenny, Rafa ? Or is that beyond us in his time here too ?

[Bender]

or an honest assessment

[red g]

Still sounds like lowering expectations to me, something Bodger was crucified over.

Time will tell.

So do we all expect 4th as a minimum now as it was for Kenny, Rafa ? Or is that beyond us in his time here too ?

it wasnt just the lowering expectations it was is negativity with it all.
I dont't think you get that with Rodgers at all.

You get the feeling he wants to leave a legacy and that can be no bad thing.

[Vermilion]

it wasnt just the lowering expectations it was is negativity with it all.
I dont't think you get that with Rodgers at all.

You get the feeling he wants to leave a legacy and that can be no bad thing.

A legacy, how many times do we hear this **** in football, so a legacy..maybe with no troiphies in his tme here, then another manager comes in and wants to do it his way...and we go down the same road again.

Look, i like the bloke, want him to do well, i'm one of the ones that he impressed with his great speaking, but now it's starting to sound a bit samey, 'I'll fight for my life' is a favourite, i just want a manager that is willing to back himself in the now, great build a legacy, but win trophies too, Kenny manged one, nearly two here so i don't see why building a legacy has to come at the cost of being trophyless, which is the possibility he paints, just no need imo.

[Gibbo]

I want us to finish 4th, realistically 6th and a good cup run is where I think we should be with the squad of players we currently have.

[MrMichael]

Still sounds like lowering expectations to me, something Bodger was crucified over.

Time will tell.

So do we all expect 4th as a minimum now as it was for Kenny, Rafa ? Or is that beyond us in his time here too ?

Hodgson was crucified for being the antithesis of everything a Liverpool manager should be, and foremost among that talking to and about the fans as if we were idiots. Rodgers isn't doing that at all.

If anyone among us honestly, from where we are at right now, expects 4th as a minimum then they're an idiot. We have every right to expect to see a team performing well, playing good football, and having a shot at 4th this season. But we obviously aren't going to throw untold millions about, and we've got 5 or 6 other clubs in this league with equally good or better claims on the top 4, most of them spending more money than us. Some a stupid amount more. For us to be truly, sustainably successful we have to go about this the right way; like he said, "it’s not all about money" but for that to be true we have to have a long term vision and goal and look at our progress in terms of stages to achieving an ultimate goal, not in terms of hard and fast arbitrary targets below which everything is a failure.

[yamiedo]

Hodgson was crucified for being the antithesis of everything a Liverpool manager should be, and foremost among that talking to and about the fans as if we were idiots. Rodgers isn't doing that at all.

[DannyMan2006]

A legacy, how many times do we hear this **** in football, so a legacy..maybe with no troiphies in his tme here, then another manager comes in and wants to do it his way...and we go down the same road again.

If a manager coming to Liverpool didn't dream of leaving a legacy, he should never set foot through the door.

The quotes from players & managers always tend to be similar, it's what happens on the pitch that counts.

As MrM says we should look to read the full passage of what he says, not quotes & headlines in papers run by fans of other clubs. Liverpool FC are still a big deal and will always make the back page. We should take that as a compliment.

Personally I'll start to worry when rival fans and papers are no longer running stories to drag us down. Under Hodgson and the latter part of Kennys reign my mates stopped taking the piss we'd fallen that low.

My mates are back in full flow now because they, like everybody else, sense LFC have a manager that fits with what we all crave.