Brendan Rodgers

[Sarb]

I really like Rodgers. I liked his presser last week too and his defence of Luis. Love how we play attacking football and how we try and go out there to win every game. A few tweaks in personnel, add a bit of further quality, work on corner defending etc and I think we'll go far.

All well and good getting top quality established managers. But if you can't attract them, sometimes it's good to look at potential, especially if you're developing a youth policy and working 3-4 years ahead. I like his philosophy and outlook on how he wants his teams to play.

[McDermotX]

Gets a C, which isn't bad going considering how he likes to run off at the mouth a bit too much, although he's cooled it recently. (Being Liverpool didn't help him much either IMO). Biggest single mis-step for me from a football perspective was how he handled the Zenith game with the subs in the second half.

Will actually push it to a C+ though, considering how he's handled the Suarez issue so far. (Plus the suit he had on at the weekend).

Looking forward to more progression next season, plus some decent work in the transfer window that could seek to mend our consistency issues.
Encouraging.

[Neil Young]

I don't care that we don't have a plan B right now. I'm just glad we've finally got a plan A.

[Sarb]

I don't care that we don't have a plan B right now. I'm just glad we've finally got a plan A.

Don't need a plan B, if you can make plan A perfect

[The Birdman]

I don't care that we don't have a plan B right now. I'm just glad we've finally got a plan A.

Absolutely spot on.
Under Kenny we played like a team who didn't have a clue and even less of a care.

The days of 'just go out there and play' boys used to work when you had the best players.
We haven't had the best players for over 20 years, that's why we were relatively successful under Rafa because he had a system and fitted the players in to it.

Rodgers has a different style, different system but the principle is the same

[Muddled]

I don't buy the we have more points than last season bull - we were knocked out of the cups MUCH earlier than last season & could therefore concentrate on the league more, so of course we should have more points than last season.
I'm not a fan of firing managers every season but, I wasn't overly excited about us hiring a manager who isn't ready to manager a club of our size yet to begin with & if we finish 7th or lower, the amount of points we finish on is irrelevant - the season is a failure imo especially with the squad we have this season compared to last & the vast improvement of players such as Henderson & as much as I hate to admit it, Downing. 6th is the absolute minimum finish considering the squad we have imo...

Well, the amount of points we finish on is *kinda* relevant.

And talking of points, we're five of them off sixth ... the 'absolute minimum finish' you require and as we take that team on next week, it's quite possibly still on.

This season has been a failure? That's 'bull'.

[red g]

I don't buy the we have more points than last season bull - we were knocked out of the cups MUCH earlier than last season & could therefore concentrate on the league more, so of course we should have more points than last season.
I'm not a fan of firing managers every season but, I wasn't overly excited about us hiring a manager who isn't ready to manager a club of our size yet to begin with & if we finish 7th or lower, the amount of points we finish on is irrelevant - the season is a failure imo especially with the squad we have this season compared to last & the vast improvement of players such as Henderson & as much as I hate to admit it, Downing. 6th is the absolute minimum finish considering the squad we have imo...

So you are saying Rodgers has improved the squad and the players brought in are good, but because he has improved us that much, we should be doing better, So the season is a right off?

[Norbs]

I don't buy the we have more points than last season bull - we were knocked out of the cups MUCH earlier than last season & could therefore concentrate on the league more, so of course we should have more points than last season.
I'm not a fan of firing managers every season but, I wasn't overly excited about us hiring a manager who isn't ready to manager a club of our size yet to begin with & if we finish 7th or lower, the amount of points we finish on is irrelevant - the season is a failure imo especially with the squad we have this season compared to last & the vast improvement of players such as Henderson & as much as I hate to admit it, Downing. 6th is the absolute minimum finish considering the squad we have imo...

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[RichC]

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[Rich]

Are you pausing for breath?

I hope not

[Sarb]

I hope not

[Sarb]

Was on scanning twitter yesterday morning and reading some posts on here. I think some fans just are just generally loathe to give any credit to Rodgers and will just call him sh*t regardless of results, win/lose/draw. We could be 4th and I get the impression that these peoples' views would not change. Just don't get the mentality to be honest. Not sure what they want. If he does anything good, it's down to others or other factors. Anything bad, it's all on him. Seem to have lost all sense of perspective.

Sure you guys probably know the twitter guys

[frank the tank]

I don't buy the we have more points than last season bull - we were knocked out of the cups MUCH earlier than last season & could therefore concentrate on the league more, so of course we should have more points than last season.
I'm not a fan of firing managers every season but, I wasn't overly excited about us hiring a manager who isn't ready to manager a club of our size yet to begin with & if we finish 7th or lower, the amount of points we finish on is irrelevant - the season is a failure imo especially with the squad we have this season compared to last & the vast improvement of players such as Henderson & as much as I hate to admit it, Downing. 6th is the absolute minimum finish considering the squad we have imo...

Getting knocked out of the cup away to Oldham was a kick in the stones.....and to be honest, so was the manner in which we got played off the park at home to Swansea in the league cup.....

I too wasn't overly excited when we hired BR - to be honest i wanted Benitez to return....or someone like Klopp......or Van Gaal when he was mentioned was exciting.......failure to attract somebody like that and then i would have given Dalglish another year. What made things more bizarre then was that we didn't seem to have a no. 1 target.......it seemed to be Martinez after BR turned us down.....

However, to say that this season has been a failure is a bit short-sighted to be honest. This season has been one of transition.

1. To bring through the likes of Sterling, Suso and Wisdom has been great. I think Shelvey could do with a loan away to be honest but in reality he has got some experience this season as well that should stand him in good stead.
2. We have signed Coutinho and Sturridge...... both of whom I think we can all agree that will get better and better in the next couple of seasons....
3. We have got rid of very high earners on our wage bill - players like Maxi (£100k per week) Kuyt (£80k per week) Bellamy (£80k per week) Aquilani (£80k per week) Joe Cole (£100k per week)......
4. We have introduced a new way of playing. Our team has got an identity now.....
5. Players like Henderson and Downing have had vast upturn in their form. Now they can be considered to be very useful players within the squad whereas 12 months ago, most of us would have cast them out and taken a big hit....

To not take these points into account when assessing the progress made over the last year is wrong in my opinion.......we also need to take into account how shafted we were in terms of striking options going into the season. I also think that our first 6 fixtures were very difficult that it made it harder to implement our new style....

What Rodgers has done over this season is given us a very good platform to build from. I think the next season objective will be to bring the team into the CL......which will be very tough because Chelsea might have some stability back (Mourinho return?), Arsenal are rumoured to be spending big this summer and the 2 manc clubs will no doubt strenghten again as well.......this is the reason why missing out on european footy next year might not be a bad thing....

I think the season after that isn't the time to challenge for the title to be honest. It will be another step up to play in the CL while qualifying again at the same time..... Only after 3 years of this progression will we be in a position to challenge for the league. Our young players should come into their own by then. The sad thing is that Gerrard will potentially be gone by then......but you never know he could do a Giggs on it.....

I'll finish with this story which is worth considering. Two bulls were standing on a hill looking down to the end of the fields. One bull says to the other......."oh look at all those cows down there. I know....lets run down there and f*ck one of them each"..... the other bull turns to him and says....."I know......lets walk down there and f*ck 'em all!!!"

[Tee]

Why couldn't the bulls run down the hill and **** them all?

[Neil Young]

They could. But they don't need to so there's no point.



Tee misses point shock.