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For the first time, I actually think it'd be best for the club if he was sacked. I'm not certain now is the right time but we don't have anything positive to draw from and that's some fall considering last year we were great.
Our defending has gotten worse
Our midfield is more disjointed
Every attacking player looks worse
We haven't scored from a corner, last year we did plenty of times
Mignolet looks to have regressed
He's picking players without basis
Players are dropped and not seen for weeks after a good performance
I wish his initials weren't BR. I keep thinking "British Rail"
When he was first appointed I wasn't impressed and wasn't surprised by our poor start during his first season in charge. Several big scoring wins late on though showed that he might be on the right track.
Things started slowly last season but everything was chugging along nicely then suddenly went into overdrive with those 11 straight (often excruciating) wins. Don't forget in a number of those wins we were hanging on for dear life at the end (City, Norwich) or got a couple of late goals for a miracle win (Fulham).
We nearly won the league yes but really we rode our luck about as much as any team can do in one single season.
Was Rodgers lucky last season and this season he's simply been found out?
One thing that stands out to me after watching the Basel game last night. In 2 1/2 seasons here he still hasn't any idea how to organise a defence. Basel could easily have been 4 up at halftime and 5-1 winners at the end of the game if their finishing had been half decent.
He'll probably last the rest of this season as manager but beyond that I have my doubts.
he wanted to be his own man, refused to work with a Director of Football or whatever title you want to give it.
many have mentioned that a DoF would have been there to assist the manager behind the scenes, help with scouting and player acquisition, etc.
and if the wheels started to wobble there would be a few experienced heads to help.
then if it went totally tits up we would at least have some sense of stability.
removing all the weak links makes us stronger
too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.
I'd be begging for someone like Johan Cruyff to come here. He's no longer tied up with Catalonia or the Mexican club. He was rumoured to be FSG's favoured choice for DOF with Van Gaal when Comolli was sacked.
We have Kenny Dalglish serving as a non-executive director. His footballing experience and possible advice to FSG could be used even further here.
Imagine Cruyff, Dalglish, Rodgers, and a head scout forming a footballing committee, and all have to be in agreement like Bayern Munich. This would leave Ayre and Gordon as the men to approve finances.
there's very little point in sacking brendan rodgers right now. we simply dont have anyone else to replace him with and no manager worth a dime would leave their club mid season and come to us in our current predicament.
we just need to see this out and make an evaluation at the end of the season, but if klopp or benitez were to become available now i would change my mind in a jiffy.
there's very little point in sacking brendan rodgers right now. we simply dont have anyone else to replace him with and no manager worth a dime would leave their club mid season and come to us in our current predicament.
we just need to see this out and make an evaluation at the end of the season, but if klopp or benitez were to become available now i would change my mind in a jiffy.
Please we can't keep going backwards and appointing ex-managers.....we really if needed to push the boat out and appoint a top manager or at least try to.
I can see this dangerously going down a Steven Gerrard (interim) player-manager route with Kenny acting as mentor.
I hope thats not how it turns out, I'd rather see the season out with Rodgers. I'd much have Stevie come back after going away getting his badges and maybe a coaching role/assistant manager first.
I think we need to think about the long term with whatever we do. Every manager we have had for the last decade and more has come in with specific ideas and altered everything from the youth up.
I really think we need to think carefully about a DoF and trying to separate that role from that of the manager/head coach. I suspect Rodgers is a very good coach and possibly even a decent enough tactician (if somewhat of the Harry Redknapp reactive mould) but I think his vision in terms of staff (playing and otherwise) and overall way of implementing a long term strategy seems to leave a lot to be desired.
"The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
-- William Blake
I have always liked the model of giving the manager the tools and asking him to do something with it. If it fails, we move on to another. It worked at Chelsea and most of the other European powerhouses.
I think we need to think about the long term with whatever we do. Every manager we have had for the last decade and more has come in with specific ideas and altered everything from the youth up.
I really think we need to think carefully about a DoF and trying to separate that role from that of the manager/head coach. I suspect Rodgers is a very good coach and possibly even a decent enough tactician (if somewhat of the Harry Redknapp reactive mould) but I think his vision in terms of staff (playing and otherwise) and overall way of implementing a long term strategy seems to leave a lot to be desired.
Completely agree with this, it's a travesty watching our long term planning or tbh. just about any English club in that aspect. English football is fortunate to have the amount of TV money it does, or it wouldn't be close to the top leagues at all.
In the last 15 years we have as you say reaproached just about everything 4 times. No consistency to our youngsters is bad, and doesn't create a good talent development atmosphere. Which is probably most noticable in only Raheem coming through this side of the millinium. Doesn't help creating a first team working well over time having to adapt to new playing philosophies and a big turnover in personel to adapt.
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