Rafa Watch

[Craig_H]

Arn...

I hadnt read Reece's post before i'd posted, so apologies for adding fuel to the fire.

But in the Tevez thread, Reece clearly tells you to post about other topics, and not about Rafa, Gerrard or Carragher.

So please do as he says. Thanks.

[Arn]

If Carra hadn't been constantly throwing his body in the line of fire in Istanbul then we wouldn't have won the CL. Maybe you could try to remember that.

He was **** in the first half before he got the extra help he needed by Hamann.

We may have won it before extra time with another central defender. We don't know that. He had to throw his body in the line of fire because he was out of position in the first place.

Compare that to Hyypia that could read the game much better and because of that almost never needed to do tackles like that.

[Arn]

Arn...

I hadnt read Reece's post before i'd posted, so apologies for adding fuel to the fire.

But in the Tevez thread, Reece clearly tells you to post about other topics, and not about Rafa, Gerrard or Carragher.

So please do as he says. Thanks.

It was you that mentioned them. Not me. I said that I didn't want to mention them and didn't want to discuss it. You clearly wanted me to do it.

[Craig_H]

I'd posted before i'd read Reece's post, you little scamp!

[Chris]

It isn't exactly speculation when Carra himself comes out with some **** like I want to be like Houllier, I love Houllier type of things.

What on earth is wrong with him liking Houllier? You need to stop taking any praise of a previous Liverpool manager that isnt Benitez as a massive criticism of Rafa himself, its nuts! The paranoia is completely out of control.

[Arn]

Oh Arn.

Btw, did we not win the CL with Houlier's squad? Is that close to being a fact?

We won it with Rafa's squad. That is a 100% fact. We won it thanks his tactics. That is a 100% fact. Dudek had even trained to make that kind of save he did against Sheva in the final minutes of extra time.

He messed things up in the first half but corrected it in the second. He used the same tactics in the first half that PSV had used when they outplayed Milan. Ancelotti of course expected us to use that tactic. He isn't an idiot. That gave Milan a great advantage in the first half.

That is why Kewell played for example.

[Arn]

I'd posted before i'd read Reece's post, you little scamp!

I know that. I can read you know

I said that I didn't want to discuss them so can we please discuss Rafa instead At least in this thread.

[Craig_H]

No no, you're not allowed to discuss Rafa

[Arn]

No no, you're not allowed to discuss Rafa

So my life is over then

[Kenneth]

It was a squad bought by Houllier ('fact'). For Carra to mention it is not adulterous. These are professional footballers/managers working together. They are not hormone riddled teenagers with romantic loyalties.

[Craig_H]

Your e-life is in jeorpardy.

But it's a good opportunity to branch out and discuss things you havent discussed for years and years. Basically anything not related to your three taboo subjects.

EDIT - Zip it Kenneth, he's just starting to obey the rules, dont drag him back into disobedience

[Kenneth]

That is possibly the most hypocritical comment that has ever been made on the Internet.

[Arn]

It was a squad bought by Houllier ('fact'). For Carra to mention it is not adulterous. These are professional footballers/managers working together. They are not hormone riddled teenagers with romantic loyalties.

Some of the squad was actually players that Evans had brought in. So by using your logic we won it with Evans squad

[Kenneth]

I can't believe you can disrespect Houllier like that.

[Arn]

As soon as the manager takes over a squad of players then it is 100% his squad. He will change tactics, he will change the way they train. He will sell and sign players.

If we win the league this season then it is 100% thanks to Kenny. It is his squad. Rafa would have nothing to do with it. It wouldn't be 90% thanks to Kenny and 10% thanks to Rafa. It would be 100% thanks to Kenny.