Rafa Watch

[IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST]

Can we now turn this thread into what questions must be asked ?
Who is going to the one night with rafa?
Maybe we can have a list of questions that must be asked and then some of those who are going could ask them or get someone they know who is going to ask them.

This is our chance to find out the truth. Unfortunately I don't have a ticket.

[Arn]

When it comes down to Keane then every believable journalist out there and Rafa have said that he wanted Barry signed first and Keane after that.

Parry signed up Keane first without telling Rafa about it and then we didn't had the money to sign Barry.

So we ended up with a signing Rafa didn't want because we didn't sign Barry first.

I don't care if you believe Chris or the journalists and Rafa. It is up to you

[Arn]

Can we now turn this thread into what questions must be asked ?
Who is going to the one night with rafa?
Maybe we can have a list of questions that must be asked and then some of those who are going could ask them or get someone they know who is going to ask them.

This is our chance to find out the truth. Unfortunately I don't have a ticket.

So someone will print out this thread and give it to him He would probably believe that it is a comedy you know.

At least it would make him laugh.

[Chris]

When it comes down to Keane then every believable journalist out there and Rafa have said that he wanted Barry signed first and Keane after that.

Parry signed up Keane first without telling Rafa about it and then we didn't had the money to sign Barry.

So we ended up with a signing Rafa didn't want because we didn't sign Barry first.

I don't care if you believe Chris or the journalists and Rafa. It is up to you

Huh? This post proves my point that Benitez definitely wanted Keane!! I've already said there was a suggestion his two targets were Keane and Barry but he wanted Barry signed first on this very page! I'm disagreeing with the suggestion that Rafa didnt want Keane at all and Parry just spent £19m for a laugh.

Thanks for helping prove my point even though you were trying to do the opposite!

[Alex]

No one said Parry did it off his own back did they? Find the quote from someone and Ill agree with you.

Keane was signed, he was ****, he was sold. Thats all we know.

[Chris]

No one said Parry did it off his own back did they? Find the quote from someone and Ill agree with you.

Keane was signed, he was ****, he was sold. Thats all we know.

So who else did it? Hicks? Gillett? You are the one saying "I don't think you can blame Keane on Rafa, it was hardly his choice of signing was it?". So who's signing was it? Do tell. We didnt have a director of football so I'll stick with my view of it being a player Rafa wanted and got.

I think even he'd cringe at this defence. Admirable but cringeworthy.

[Arn]

Huh? This post proves my point that Benitez definitely wanted Keane!! I've already said there was a suggestion his two targets were Keane and Barry but he wanted Barry signed first on this very page! I'm disagreeing with the suggestion that Rafa didnt want Keane at all and Parry just spent £19m for a laugh.

Rafa didn't wanted Keane signed up at all if we didn't sign Barry first. Difficult to understand that or what?

So Rafa didn't want Keane at all because we never signed Barry. Parry signed him up even that Rafa didn't wanted him to do it. His orders was to sign up Barry first. He didn't give a **** about it and signed up Keane instead. A player Rafa didn't wanted signed up until after we signed Barry.

[Chris]

Parry signed him up even that Rafa didn't wanted him to do it.

You can just imagine Parry driving down to London saying to himself "I'll ruin the Spanish cunt!!". It was all a mega conspiracy against Benitez. Just like at Inter where the referees ruined him and Mourinho left him a crap squad of league winners and CL winners.

For someone so perfect you'd think the worlds biggest clubs would be hammering down the door.

[Kenneth]

So someone will print out this thread and give it to him He would probably believe that it is a comedy you know.

At least it would make him laugh.

I think Arn would make him more scared tbh.

[Alex]

So who else did it? Hicks? Gillett? You are the one saying "I don't think you can blame Keane on Rafa, it was hardly his choice of signing was it?". So who's signing was it? Do tell. We didnt have a director of football so I'll stick with my view of it being a player Rafa wanted and got.

I think even he'd cringe at this defence. Admirable but cringeworthy.

Your not reading what im writing. I said IF IT WAS HIS SIGNING HE GOT RID STRAIGHT AWAY.

Thats not difficult to accept is it? I also said in another post that he may well have been on the list of targets, but not high up.

I dont know if you do this just to wind people up? Something I wrote as a throw away comment is being picked apart by someone that clearly just looks for arguments. You win, Im off to do something more enjoyable.

[Arn]

No one said Parry did it off his own back did they? Find the quote from someone and Ill agree with you.

Keane was signed, he was ****, he was sold. Thats all we know.

There, in the sky blue of City, will be Gareth Barry, the man coveted by the Liverpool manager last year. Barry was key to a new-look side at Anfield, one that never took shape after the midfield player stayed at Aston Villa, then moved to City in the summer.

Would Liverpool have won the league last season if Barry had signed? It is a question that Benítez must have mulled over a thousand times. He gives a deep sigh, so heavy that it is audible when the tape is played back.

“You never know,” he said slowly. “Football is a funny game. The plan was for Barry to play on the left and feed the ball to Robbie Keane, who would play up front with Fernando Torres. This blueprint had to be scrapped. The collateral damage was Keane, who signed from Tottenham Hotspur before the Barry deal had been done.

“When we wanted to sign Barry, we were sure we were signing a good player with a very good mentality and the quality to play in the Premier League. The priority was Barry, then Keane.”

Against a chaotic backdrop of politicking and finger-pointing at Anfield, Benítez’s priorities were ignored. Keane was the collateral damage but there were wider disappointments for the manager.

“We were looking to the future because we knew we needed three or four English players in the squad [for the Champions League],” Benítez said. “We knew there were rule changes and we needed English players and we were trying to get there early.

“The only way to do that was to sell [foreign] players and bring money in to sign English players. But the main thing about Barry is that he can play in three positions. To sign Barry would have been a very good addition for the team.”

Those who believed Benítez to be innately negative were surprised this season when he signed Glen Johnson as an attacking full back, but the manager has been looking for positive contributions from his defence for a long time. Here, too, he saw Barry as an option. “If you wanted to be more offensive, you could use Barry as a left full back and he would still be controlling the game because he’s good with the ball,” Benítez said. “He could play as a winger. Not a winger just to beat players but one with good delivery, good crosses, good possession.

“That was the idea. Everything was perfect. Good player, good mentality and English.”

The plan had gone awry and a new system was needed to put in its place. Using Steven Gerrard as a second striker compromised Keane’s role. Benítez acted decisively, sending Keane back to White Hart Lane after a mere six months at Anfield.

Would the Ireland striker have been a success in tandem with Barry? “Keane was a very good signing and everybody knew that he was a goal threat,” Benítez said. “He did not settle down in our team for different reasons and we needed to do something, so we did it quickly. With other players around it would have been easier for Keane. We played a different way.”

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[Kenneth]

Phew.

[dom9]

Chris, you seem like a nice bloke.

[Chris]

Thats not difficult to accept is it?

I find the denial that it was his signing difficult to accept yes. Its bonkers. Just like the people who say "Roma owed us a million or two for Riise so we had to spend £17m on Aquilani".

You win, Im off to do something more enjoyable.

Thanks for letting us know!

[Chris]

Clicky

Thanks for proving my point! Its unfortunate he didnt get what he wanted in the order he wanted but nice to see confirmation he definitely wanted Keane not that we needed it.