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    Juve a bit less confident than they have recently been sounding.

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      Originally posted by Lecter View Post
      You could apply that to a lot of players in our side though
      Fair enough but for me, his position in these types of games is critical and he's not up to task nor will he ever be, he's too immobile and honestly I don't have the technical insight to put my finger on it but if I had to guess he plays much much better without the ball in an open game inside of with it in a compact game were you need vision etc .. he is no Xabi Alonso ... which is exactly what we need in these ganes .. someone who can dicatate the pace of the game from the centre of the park and hurt teams with the way he keeps the ball moving and cutting passes
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        Originally posted by Nicey View Post
        Fair enough but for me, his position in these types of games is critical and he's not up to task nor will he ever be, he's too immobile and honestly I don't have the technical insight to put my finger on it but if I had to guess he plays much much better without the ball in an open game inside of with it in a compact game were you need vision etc .. he is no Xabi Alonso ... which is exactly what we need in these ganes .. someone who can dicatate the pace of the game from the centre of the park and hurt teams with the way he keeps the ball moving and cutting passes
        You could apply all of the above to Wijnaldum more so for me because he frequently fails to win any tackles

        Out of all our midfielders Wijnaldum is the priority to get shot of not Can or even Henderson
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          Originally posted by Lecter View Post
          You could apply all of the above to Wijnaldum more so for me because he frequently fails to win any tackles

          Out of all our midfielders Wijnaldum is the priority to get shot of not Can or even Henderson
          Unfortunately Klopp seems to highly rate him. I would move on Gini, his piss poor away form is reason enough. Henderson I feel a bit sorry for. I really rated him a season or so ago but clearly all is not well physically and dare I say mentally.

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            Originally posted by Lecter View Post
            You could apply all of the above to Wijnaldum more so for me because he frequently fails to win any tackles

            Out of all our midfielders Wijnaldum is the priority to get shot of not Can or even Henderson


            He tends to play well in big games but otherwise he seems to offer very little, also there is a marked difference in his level at home and away from home, and it's not just the goal scoring record. I don't think that I would play him in away games.
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              Originally posted by Lecter View Post
              You could apply all of the above to Wijnaldum more so for me because he frequently fails to win any tackles

              Out of all our midfielders Wijnaldum is the priority to get shot of not Can or even Henderson
              We need a squad though, with players that are suited for different games.

              Wijnaldum has proven himself to be a lynchpin in big games, where he seems to keep the ball, have the ability to link up play and pass and move effortlessly. He was great against City. I also think he will be a guaranteed starter should we progress in Europe and in any of the other big PL battles we have coming up.

              He doesn't suit the more attritional pitch battle type away games such as the one we had on Monday. Where of the current squad even Henderson should start ahead of him.

              I wouldn't sell him. I wouldn't sell Henderson or Can either. We need a squad with genuine depth.

              Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post


              He tends to play well in big games but otherwise he seems to offer very little, also there is a marked difference in his level at home and away from home, and it's not just the goal scoring record. I don't think that I would play him in away games.
              Playing well in big games is a pretty decent attribute to have...!
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                Dont get me wrong, its not that I dont like the guy, I do, but we need something else for these games perhaps thats were Naby comes in.
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                  Originally posted by Buzzo View Post

                  Playing well in big games is a pretty decent attribute to have...!
                  Ok perhaps that's true, and while we do need players for different situations. Playing well in big games is one situation but I don't think that we can have players who only play well in about 5 games a season. Also if players can play well in big games but not in the lesser games to me that suggests either an attitude or motivational problem.
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                    Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                    We need a squad though, with players that are suited for different games.

                    Wijnaldum has proven himself to be a lynchpin in big games, where he seems to keep the ball, have the ability to link up play and pass and move effortlessly. He was great against City. I also think he will be a guaranteed starter should we progress in Europe and in any of the other big PL battles we have coming up.

                    He doesn't suit the more attritional pitch battle type away games such as the one we had on Monday. Where of the current squad even Henderson should start ahead of him.

                    I wouldn't sell him. I wouldn't sell Henderson or Can either. We need a squad with genuine depth.



                    Playing well in big games is a pretty decent attribute to have...!
                    Very true, but there's probably 12 "big" (home and away against Utd, City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, Everton) league games a season and 26 games against "lesser" teams.

                    He's such an enigma, capable of doing great things but also capable of stinking the place out. It's obvious he needs a run in the side, but then I don't think he's going the stamina to play a string of games without a rest.

                    If he goes I'd be more disappointed we didn't get a fee for him than him actually leaving.
                    Last edited by Jaymo; 24-01-18, 11:18 PM.

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                      Originally posted by Jaymo View Post
                      Very true, but there's probably 12 "big" (home and away against Utd, City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, Everton) league games a season and 26 games against "lesser" teams.

                      He's such an enigma, capable of doing great things but also capable of stinking the place out. It's obvious he needs a run in the side, but then I don't think he's going the stamina to play a string of games without a rest.

                      If he goes I'd be more disappointed we didn't get a fee for him than him actually leaving.

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                        He’ll end up at Bayern in the summer. He’s an out of contract young German international... it’s inevitable.
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                          He'll remember these captaincies.......probably while sitting by the pool over in Turin.
                          "I will make the boys feel your support"
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                            I hope someone comes in for him before the window closes. Then at least we'll be forced to get a proper midfielder in.
                            One tit for another.

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                              a ****ing annoying footballer has a game where you think he is proper quality but backed up by being mainly ****e
                              Oh I say his vision there was lovely

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                                Good work TAA to win the throw in there
                                Was muß, das muß.

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