Emre Can

[Lecter]

Given the way teams defend so deeply against us, we sometimes have to draw them out a bit and tease them with the prospect of an interception/tackle so that someone is out of position and there's a chance to then create some space further forward.

This is when you need pace and a change in tempo to strike quickly

Recently is all been so slooooooooow so by he time you have drawn them on then slowly moved the ball across the pitch taking 58 passes instead of 1 or 2 teams have set themselves

Yesterday the only time we looked dangerous was when we played long diagonal passes to the wide areas

There was numerous times we could have exploited the flanks but took too many passes to get it there

[BigChief]

I was thinking we need to disrupt bus parkers. All week they will practice and drill how to defend against quick one twos. What we need to do is practice or game, but also an additional change of formation mid game when Klopp signals for it.

My idea is using exactly the same team yesterday, but pushing Lovren into striker position for 10 minutes while pushing Can into CB. For those minutes we keep the fullbacks 10 yards further back and get them to send in diagonal balls or crosses into their box with the rest of the players waiting for second balls and our trademark football.

This might not yield results but it will do the disruption I'm talking about. Once they cotton on and change, Klopp signals to go back to plan A. Swansea will change back and we might go with plan B for another 5 minutes.

The changes will be obvious from us but Swansea will not have practiced against it all week. Players switching in-game may lose focus for a split second which may be enough for Coutinho and co to profit.

It's better than 15 minutes of pointless possession.

[RichC]

Roy is that you ?

[Cormack74]

I was thinking we need to disrupt bus parkers. All week they will practice and drill how to defend against quick one twos. What we need to do is practice or game, but also an additional change of formation mid game when Klopp signals for it.

My idea is using exactly the same team yesterday, but pushing Lovren into striker position for 10 minutes while pushing Can into CB. For those minutes we keep the fullbacks 10 yards further back and get them to send in diagonal balls or crosses into their box with the rest of the players waiting for second balls and our trademark football.

This might not yield results but it will do the disruption I'm talking about. Once they cotton on and change, Klopp signals to go back to plan A. Swansea will change back and we might go with plan B for another 5 minutes.

The changes will be obvious from us but Swansea will not have practiced against it all week. Players switching in-game may lose focus for a split second which may be enough for Coutinho and co to profit.

It's better than 15 minutes of pointless possession.

Listening to Gary Neville (or some other Manc ****) a few weeks back, he said DBF would always tell them to play long against us at certain times in the games at Anfield to disrupt our rhythm.

So although I've never considered Whisky gob to be a tactical genius I do think there's merit in this periodic approach as long as it doesn't become an automatic default.

(Of course Maureen has refined it by having a load of tall blokes and spending significant time on the training ground practising hoof).

[BigChief]

Listening to Gary Neville (or some other Manc ****) a few weeks back, he said DBF would always tell them to play long against us at certain times in the games at Anfield to disrupt our rhythm.

So although I've never considered Whisky gob to be a tactical genius I do think there's merit in this periodic approach as long as it doesn't become an automatic default.

(Of course Maureen has refined it by having a load of tall blokes and spending significant time on the training ground practising hoof).

DBF might not have been a tactical genius but he could smell victory for years. If a team was better or stubborn then you break their rhythm. The art of disruption is the surprise element. Once there is no surprise then there is no disruption.

So by definition we don't go full Mourinho. Let's see how we react to this **** patch we're going through.

[rudedog]

You need the right players to play the long ball game effectively - we don't have them. Even when we did have big target men like Crouch, Caroll and Benteke, we still seemed **** at it.

[BigChief]

Its not about playing the long ball. Or employing any kind of strategy. Its to feck with the opposition long enough (very few minutes) to confuse them into a mistake. Even if we do it badly. Its about disruption, not about our own style of play (which must never change I'd like to add).

[Bender]

Emre Can's future is in the air. He's been stalling over a new contract and clearly believes he’s worth more than LFC are offering

Hopefully it will be sorted before the end of the season. If he doesn’t sign then it’s likely he will be sold. (James Pearce)

[danperkins]

He's only a squad player and when everyone is fit IMO he's not part of the 11. Never warmed to Can as much as some, I think he's headless, so slow to release the ball and a master of no position. On the other hand he does give so much effort & always gets stuck in.

He's probably be brilliant in somewhere like Italy and sure he might improve dramatically in the future but at the moment he isn't really in a great position to bargain with as he's been very poor this season.

[Slinky Skills]

Yeah I'm not a fan of him at all.

If you did a montage of him I'm sure you could create a collection of him moaning more at the ref or fouling someone than you will of him doing anything worthwhile with the ball at his feet.

[Fernandinho]

Can't believe people aren't a fan of him. He is younger than bloody Stewart! He has so many attributes to become a quality midfielder. This feels like Henderson when we first signed him all over again. Controlling the play from midfield takes not just talent but experience.

Look at the way Xabi Alonso continued to improve as he got older, obviously he has always had that bit of extra class, but it goes to show that at 23 years old you cant be expecting the full package.

[danperkins]

I think the problem with Can is that he nailed down a particular position as such and there are better players ahead of him in the midfield. I really expected him yo push on this season but he seems to have stagnated. Honestly I don't see him controlling the play at all. His work rate is great, gets stuck in, does some lovely long cross field balls now and again & some bursting runs which usually end in him losing possession.

Henderson & Wjnaldum are the ones who control the tempo IMO, get the ball and quick release, counter in the transition. IMO that's is our game under Klopp and seems to be how he wants it. Can seems to work at a slower tempo when he's on the ball & I do feel that it kills alot of counter attacks. He is still young, has good attributes there no doubts & may very well turn into a really good player but at the moment when everyone is fully fit, I would much rather have a midfield trio of Lallana/Hendo/Wjnaldum.

[Fredo]

His problem is lack of technical ability to play in this position in a team like ours which favours passing the ball at speed. Look at the way he manipulates the ball. His touch isn't good enough sadly.

[Irishnev]

His problem is lack of technical ability to play in this position in a team like ours which favours passing the ball at speed. Look at the way he manipulates the ball. His touch isn't good enough sadly.

I know you are not his biggest fan Fredo but I think he'll come good - people seem to forget how young he is so he will be subject to lapses in his form. I actually think he is very technically capable and has the physique to get on in the EPL. I do agree he can be a bit ponderous in possession but that will improve with age. If he was available I gave no doubt a top level club would buy him.

[Myo]

I know you are not his biggest fan Fredo but I think he'll come good - people seem to forget how young he is so he will be subject to lapses in his form. I actually think he is very technically capable and has the physique to get on in the EPL. I do agree he can be a bit ponderous in possession but that will improve with age. If he was available I gave no doubt a top level club would buy him.

agree, i think the problem is he tends to try over do, if could he just try to do the simple things (like simple passes! like simple hold the ball up, like simple run deep into the box and use his height/physicality etc) and then let his game develop from there