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Nothing to do with the fee. If he played like that and cost £4.5m he wouldn't be good enough. He doesn't have the ability to be leading our attack. Fed up of the pro Carrolls using the fee argument as a reason for those not convinced for disliking him.
Can you support and dislike at the same time.
I'll support him whilst he is wearing a red shirt but I dislike him as a footballer who is good enough to be a no.9 at LFC. Just like Diouf.
FACT is your initial assessment of Kenny was grossly inaccurate (on all levels) as is your assessment of Adam
You only need Carroll to start working out and you'll have a hattrick
£35m on Carroll
£20m on Downing
Yep....superb.
Overy £100m spent and we are five points short of fourth place having been embarassed by Fulham, Norwich, Swansea, Stoke and having been humilated by Spurs.
Yep a roaring success.
If this was any manager but KD we would all be in uproar.
Downing reminds me the high school nerd in hollywood movies who has got a date with the hottest cheerleader and goes about doing all sorts of awkward stuff as is he is unsure of what to do.
He is obviously better than what he is showing right now. Downing should take up some responsibility in an attacking sense. Just drive forward with the ball. Try to take on some players. Demand the ball occasionally. Be aggressive. On the rare occasions he has done that he has looked like a Liverpool player. Unfortunately on most occasions, he has been content giving a five yard pass to Enrique and let him do the work.
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Yeah but it was £35m because we got £50m for Torres and we needed to get someone in fast......
What a load of rubbish......i was at the game last night and once again he was useless. I actually think if you took Andriy Voronin, dyed his hair, gave him one of those asian leg extension operations, then we'd have saved ourselves 35m squids and still had the same player.....
his heading isn't that good either. People were going on about how he had a good effort last week against Joe Hart, but in reality, that should have been his bread and butter - it should have been dead into the corner...
Last night, he was pure toilet. He has the first touch of a prostitute, he can't shoot (see that effort in the 2nd half - i was embarrassed for him), his link up play is diabolical as well......
People say he is "just a big lump" but that is an insult to the likes of Heskey - who was just a big lump. At least the thing with Heskey was he created space for Owen. Rooney also had good sucess for England playing alongside Emily - but Carroll being on the pitch takes from Suarez's game......he slows things up, he ****s things up, he generally does fock all....
When Jay got sent off last night, it didn't actually make a HUGE difference to our attaching play - because Carroll was replaced - while Andy was playing, it was like we had been playing with 10 men anyway.......
Overy £100m spent and we are five points short of fourth place having been embarassed by Fulham, Norwich, Swansea, Stoke and having been humilated by Spurs.
Yep a roaring success.
If this was any manager but KD we would all be in uproar.
You stated that Kenny would be a disaster (if appointed even interim manager) and because he'd been out of the game so long
You also stated he had a rigid adherence to 4-4-2, the fact he never adhered to 4-4-2 in the first place shows how much bollocks you talk
Secondly he wasnt a disaster in his interim period and he hasnt been now
We werent embarassed by Norwich et al we were unlucky not to beat them as we were clearly the better side in most if not all of those games
Spurs I will give you - one game
FLMAO seriously give it a rest you are making yourself look an even bigger tit by the day and thats saying something!!!
If I'm being honest it is starting to look like we've overpaid for Carroll but in his defence he is still really young and has years left in the game and also he has been in and out of the squad pretty much since he arrived which he can't do anything about as it's Dalglish that picks the squad.
And if you're not being played consistently you're going to be unfit, you won't have as good movement as your teammates, you'll struggle to fit in to the team's style of play which he clearly is at the moment.
Finally I believe it's a psychological thing with Carroll, he along with Downing are both clearly struggling to deliver and are finding it hard handling the pressure of playing for a club as big as ours.
Of course he can help himself by training and working harder which I'm sure he is but that's all he can do at the moment, everything else is pretty much out of his control.
Until he gets a run of 5-6 games one after the other we are not going to see the best of him and consequently the fans are going to be on his case all the time which is a shame as we should be supporting him.
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Sorry, but it is bollocks to evaluate a player without his price tag if you're going to look at the whole picture. Aye, it's not AC's fault but it's about level of expectations. We expect an expensive player to deliver more than an inexpensive one, which is the primary reason for their expense in the 1st place.
We arent City & we have a finite pool of money. The £35m spent on AC is £35m we cannot/could not spend elsewhere.
I'm not saying he wont come good, but Im concerned & Im fairly sure he wont come £35m good.
You can go back as far as the Roy Evans era IMO. We cannot afford to make too many mistakes with big money signings and we cannot afford for them not to work, we just get left behind every year. And when big signings pay off for one year we make a couple of stupid signings the following year to undo the good work. Ged, Rafa, now Kenny at the Moment.
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