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    #1051
    Originally posted by Red Setter View Post
    Graham Taylor was on R5Live this morning saying he thought it was unwise of Hodgson to speak out on this since it could look like he's trying to influence the decision. He also said, "I don't know if he is..." (or words to that effect).

    Which, at the very least, suggests to me it's common knowledge in football that powerful individuals and institutions can influence the FA's supposedly independent and justice-driven, disciplinary processes.

    Does it?

    We have no idea if his unwise comments are influencing anything.
    Oh I don't know.

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      #1052
      Originally posted by Red Setter View Post
      Graham Taylor was on R5Live this morning saying he thought it was unwise of Hodgson to speak out on this since it could look like he's trying to influence the decision. He also said, "I don't know if he is..." (or words to that effect).

      Which, at the very least, suggests to me it's common knowledge in football that powerful individuals and institutions can influence the FA's supposedly independent and justice-driven, disciplinary processes.

      Rather a strong imputation, although sadly far from unbelievable.
      "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
      -- William Blake

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        #1053
        Originally posted by dom9 View Post
        Does it?

        We have no idea if his unwise comments are influencing anything.
        That's not at all what i was saying. My inference was nothing to do with Hodgson's intervention per se, let alone accusing any such attempt (if definitely there were one) of having any impact.

        My point is that Taylor finds it conceivable. He knows the intricacies of the FA, and the power and its limits of managers, including, of course, even the England manager. The fact he can conceive of the possibility suggests it wouldn't be the first time if it was attempted in this particular case.
        .
        Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



        May the Lord bless this post.

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          #1054
          He should have said he hopes the fa come to the correct conclusion, is all, imo.

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            #1055
            Originally posted by Red Setter View Post
            That's not at all what i was saying. My inference was nothing to do with Hodgson's intervention per se, let alone accusing any such attempt (if definitely there were one) of having any impact.

            My point is that Taylor finds it conceivable. He knows the intricacies of the FA, and the power and its limits of managers, including, of course, even the England manager. The fact he can conceive of the possibility suggests it wouldn't be the first time if it was attempted in this particular case.
            He appears to conceive of the possibility that Hodgson might try to influence the FA, which doesn't itself suggest that the FA might be influenced by such, just that Roy might try. Maybe he just thinks Roy's a plank.
            Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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              #1056
              Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
              He should have said he hopes the fa come to the correct conclusion, is all, imo.
              Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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                #1057
                Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                He appears to conceive of the possibility that Hodgson might try to influence the FA, which doesn't itself suggest that the FA might be influenced by such, just that Roy might try. Maybe he just thinks Roy's a plank.
                It doesn't prove the FA can be influenced. But it suggests Taylor thinks people 'inside the game' believe it's worth a try.

                For what it is worth, I think it's less likely that Hodgson was trying to influence the process and more likely that he couldn't stop the drivel that flows so freely from his gob. But that's another matter. Either way it calls into question just how great he is at the PR side.
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                Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                May the Lord bless this post.

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                  #1058
                  Originally posted by dww View Post
                  Rather a strong imputation, although sadly far from unbelievable.
                  Yes, on its own it is a strong inference. But it fits with a lot of other, otherwise unrelated, things we know and have heard. There's a pattern.

                  But yep, it's not close to 100%.
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                  Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                  May the Lord bless this post.

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                    #1059
                    http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/article/165/7991306/hodgson-branded-foolish-by-powar


                    Didn't stop you interfering with Suarez did it Piara, You two-faced vaginal puss wart.
                    Football without Origi is nothing

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                      #1060
                      Secret hearing for Ferdinand vis-à-vis his "choc ice" comments. Hhmm...

                      http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...-cole-choc-ice

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                        #1061
                        Originally posted by Assassin View Post
                        WOFLMAO
                        "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                          #1062
                          Originally posted by BootRoom View Post
                          Secret hearing for Ferdinand vis-à-vis his "choc ice" comments. Hhmm...

                          http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...-cole-choc-ice
                          i can understand this as they dont want it to become a media circus. just a shame they didnt think on previously, the anally retentive gob****es
                          removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                          too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                            #1063
                            He didn't make the comment himself, someone else did and he agreed, pissed himself laughing etc.
                            Like blood on iron

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                              #1064
                              Hodgson is an idiot, why come out and say this
                              The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                                #1065
                                Think you've answered your own question there.
                                Like blood on iron

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