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ALAN HANSEN IS A RACIST TOO!!! LIVERPOOL FC - Home of the Racists!!!!!Comment
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I was totally convinced that the FA would clear Suarez, I've read a lot of comments from both sides today and I haven't heard anything that helps to make sense of the FA's decision. There isn't any evidence which we're unaware of, the club statement would have made reference to it. I don't understand the FA's stance at all, they haven't helped to deal with the racist issue - they've made the situation much worse. There is far greater hatred between England's two big clubs today than there was yesterday. If the FA had stated that there were lessons to be learnt and that new players coming into our country should be made more aware of the cultural differences then I think everyone would have been satisfied. The FA have revealed themselves to be totally incompetent, they have taken far too long to make the wrong decision. The FA had plenty of time to find a sensible solution, but they never had any intention of giving Suarez a fair hearing. **** the England team and **** the FA. Blatter is more trustworthy than this bunch of clowns.Comment
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It's beyond a joke but I bet Hansen will be gone - the Mancs will send complaints in demanding he be sacked. Because it's regarding race the BBC won't hesitate.
Apologies if already posted but thought these were particuarly good...
especially: 17.50, 15.30Comment
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Unbelievable
Chief sports writer for the star should stick to titsDannyFullbrook Danny Fullbrook
The liverpool players got exactly what they deserved for their ridiculous statement supporting a racist. #LFC
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The way the press have reacted to this is shockingComment
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If Luis Suarez and Alan Hansen are racist then I am too.Originally posted by sean_lfc View Post
This country has gone bonkers.
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Aye this was good too.Originally posted by Charles Manson View PostIt's beyond a joke but I bet Hansen will be gone - the Mancs will send complaints in demanding he be sacked. Because it's regarding race the BBC won't hesitate.
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especially: 17.50, 15.30
17.02 Here's a lengthy email from Tim Crowley:
E-mail Now I'm not a legal professional, so I stand to be corrected, but it would seem to me that the FA have not stated either the charge or the verdict very well. The original charge is that: "'It is alleged that Suárez used abusive and/or insulting words and/or behaviour towards Manchester United's Patrice Evra contrary to FA rules.
"It is further alleged that this included a reference to the ethnic origin and/or colour and/or race of Patrice Evra.'" Now yesterday's statement makes clear that the verdict is that "Mr Suárez used insulting words towards Mr Evra". These insulting words "included a reference to Mr Evra's colour".
What do we make of this? Note that the reference to "behaviour" is not part of the verdict. The emphasis then is on the words used by Suárez, not his behaviour: on the 'what', not the 'how' (so the issue of 'how he said what he said', as James Lawton puts it the Independent, is irrelevant).
The key question, then, is this: What were the insulting words? Whatever they were, it is stated that they included a reference to colour. The one acknowledged reference to Evra's colour came in the context of a question that Suárez asked Evra. Just to be clear, according to the FA statement, the reference to colour is not in itself the 'insult'.
It presumably influenced the extent of the punishment, but not necessarily the initial verdict. What this means is that the FA must show evidence of insulting words, apart from the use of a word referring to Evra's colour, to support their verdict.
In other words, the issue, as it has been set by the FA in their statement, is not about whether or not Suárez used the word 'negro', or 'negrito'; nor is it about his demeanour when he used the word. It is rather about whether the reference to Evra's colour came in the context of verbal abuse.
I would expect Liverpool FC should have no difficulty acquiring the services of a team of legal professionals who should be able easily to destroy the FA's case, and overturn the verdict.
The odd thing is, if it is true that Evra did indeed utter the words “Don’t touch me, you South American”, allegedly in Spanish, then the case is far clearer that Evra used insulting words which included a deprecatory reference to Suárez's background, that could be considered tantamount to racist abuse, i.e., of treating another person less favourably on grounds of ethnic or national origin.
Moreover, if Evra did say that in Spanish, then the context is a conversation in Spanish, within which the use of 'negro' or 'negrito' needs to be properly understood. And that would invalidate the argument that Suárez should have been aware of the potentially offensive connotations of the use of the English word 'negro' in the UK or other English-speaking countries.Modifying post.Comment
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Originally posted by TheElephantMan View Post
Quite often in landmark decisions, a verdict is reached that baffles most normal people from the public, you know, relatively rationally-thinking Bobs and Claires.
The way it works, is that Bob and Claire don't know, and relatively few people even within know, that there are very often shadow people involved, above the instutition/above the court/above the judge. These are the (immensely powerful) people who come in at the last minute and say 'This is how it's going to happen.' And that's what happens.
I recall a case quite brilliantly, which was totally similar to this case, it ran on for ****ing years, ages, it was all over the press, everyone got involved, it went to the high courts and ****ing everything and in the end, when EVERYONE, even the accused, thought they'd be found guilty and face massive massive charges etc. the accused got off pretty much scott free. Now... anyone remember the banking charges cases? Lloyds etc.? And how - in the end - it was NOT deemed unlawful for them to be charging extortionate amounts of money for going 50p overdrawn? Everyone had their opinion on that ****. Same thing. It was clear as day, all the evidence pointed towards 35 quid/25quid for a printed letter to be sent out was 'extortionate and disproportionate with regards to the (automated) work effort needed to send out a 1-page document in the post'. I remember when the verdict was read, was a pretty nice day, ****ing ******s. Everyone 'knew' they'd get done, the banks would get done and have to pay back the unlawful charges. Did they ****! Same here, one rule for the peasants, one rule for the bosses and one rule for the overlords.Comment
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Oh ffs sake theres a difference between racism and ignoranceOriginally posted by Chazza1978 View PostAnybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
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Keep voting Luis on the sky sports poll
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Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
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Aye, but if it's done on a static IP, this will be a problem and registered (which a lot of cable connections are, and the UK has a lot of cable broadband and even if it reconnects, it'll only do this every 24 hours, unless you turn off the cable modem and back on again). And if it's done like 20 times in 2 minutes and everyone's doing it...they have IT guys sitting there who probably know more than me, so this will obviously also be registered. I personally would rather not give them further ammo to alter or void the poll...Originally posted by cream View PostComment
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The poll is pretty accurate as it is - Suarez is the best (and least racist) player in the Premiership and Van Persie isn't too far behind.Comment
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Maybe someone should design a simple number 7 on red background that everyone can print and put in car and house windows to show support for Luis? Or that silhouette that the players had on the T-Shirts today.
Something to visually show support for Luis.Comment
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Mostar has got that exact image. It's a simple white/red design and I'm sure he could whip something up within 2 minutes in Photoshop, could make it a campaign. 'Print this, hang it wherever'.Originally posted by topscorer View PostComment
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