Kenny isn't what we need

[Neil Young]

Fernandinho is what we need.

[cream]

Dedication is what we need.

[Exiled_red]

Disagree on Adam and Carroll. They have been alright.

To be honest Adam is the player I'm most worried about. We're losing the midfield battle too often, we need a central midfield that can dominate the game and dictate play. Adam goes missing far too often and in my opinion lacks the ability and quality to dominate the midfield for long periods of the game.

If we get control of the midfield and dictate the play the more attacking players (strikers and wide players) will also have more influence on the game.

[Neil Young]

Dedication is what we need.

If we want to be the best.

[~LFCHistory~]

To be honest Adam is the player I'm most worried about. We're losing the midfield battle too often, we need a central midfield that can dominate the game and dictate play. Adam goes missing far too often and in my opinion lacks the ability and quality to dominate the midfield for long periods of the game.

If we get control of the midfield and dictate the play the more attacking players (strikers and wide players) will also have more influence on the game.

Yep. As long as Adam starts our midfield will get dominated. He isn't good enough for a club with top 4 aspirations.

[Alex]

To be honest Adam is the player I'm most worried about. We're losing the midfield battle too often, we need a central midfield that can dominate the game and dictate play. Adam goes missing far too often and in my opinion lacks the ability and quality to dominate the midfield for long periods of the game.

If we get control of the midfield and dictate the play the more attacking players (strikers and wide players) will also have more influence on the game.

Thats a different debate altogether though. I was pointing out that they hadnt been as bad as people were making out.

[Alex]

I would also like the record to show that I have come to like Neils interjections.

[Shanks]

“Obviously after Saturday’s game and the trip I am a bit tired but I am recovering,” Suarez added

Liverpool midfielder Charlie Adam has dropped out of the Scotland squad to face Cyprus in a friendly in Larnaca on Friday due to a knee injury.

Surely they could afford to lose Suarez, for that friendly in Italy?

[Alex]

Presteige friendly though. Im sure Uraguay put more emphasis on there national team. Especially as they are the South American Champions. They want there talisman there and to show they can compete on the world stage.

[Lecter]

Agree that Maxi is not the answer in terms of scoring goals. The point I was trying to make is that the last season under Dalglish I believe we scored lots of goals because we were playing pass and move football and using a fluid, modern 4231 formation. Players like Maxi, Spearing and Bellamy are suited to pass and move football but for some reason our manager believes that a rigid 442 is the way forward despite all the evidence to the contrary.

I'd like to see a stat comparison between last season (under Kenny) and this

In terms of chances created, shots, shots on target

I bet you there is little or no difference in the amount of chances we are creating / shots

The crucial difference is finishing

So really if we are creating the same number of chances/shots under 4-4-2 as we were under 4-2-3-1 I dont see how changing the formation is going to get us better results

The problem is in finishing those chances - its **** all to do with formations/players etc...

We are creating chances and players are missing those chances (that last season the same players might have been taking)

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This thread's getting Déjà vu...

[Dalglish]

I'd like to see a stat comparison between last season (under Kenny) and this

That would be really REALLY interesting.

[Alex]

Nice use of the 'grave' and 'acute' accents there Icon.

[Lecter]

Yep. As long as Adam starts our midfield will get dominated. He isn't good enough for a club with top 4 aspirations.

Dominated infers the midfield is being overrun all through games which absolutely isnt true

The only game that has happened was Spurs, and that imo was down to Parker who did a number on our midfield last season also (when at West Ham) and that central midfield didnt include Adam

Yes Norwich, Swansea have had periods in games when they have done well but you'd expect that

People are reading and imo creating way too much with this Adam thing

The simple thing is the team hasnt been doing too badly in ANY department except finishing

[Lecter]

That would be really REALLY interesting.

Do I detect a note of sarcasm there Mr David?