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433, or 343...
When we played 433 at out best we were great. We had flying wingbacks who could defend, vvd in cheat mode was a machine and a midfield that had a peak fabinho to tidy up.
Our midfield weakness was covered by the wingers and our defence.
But until this window, our midfield has been terrible, let's not dig up the decaying corpses to have a new postmortem. This has put more pressure on our defence and they have been mostly poor too. The wing backs are much less reliable, especially trent and his curly wig.
The new midfield signings of Macalister and Szoboszlai will give us the mobility and ball winning we have been severely lacking, and maybe we will see Thuram come is as a new DM to further shore things up.
This will mean we are no longer so reliant on our wing backs for creating chances.
We have flirted with a back three and it wasn't so bad. Vvd covering the middle, Robbo on the left and Konate on the right. It works OK with Konate on the right as he has great recovery pace and strength, but if he is unfit we might struggle with Matip getting dragged out wide.
The back three experiment wasn't too bad, even with a dysfunctional midfield.
It could be so much better with midfielders who can actually run and cover the space.
All too often our midfield has been invisible and opposition has played through us like we were fielding traffic cones!removing all the weak links makes us stronger
too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.
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With the 2 midfield signings we have made so far I can't see us going 433, you are asking alot of the one DM, not sure Fabinho or Henderson are up to it, unless we are bringing in a new first choice DM I think we are all in on the new formation.The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.
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I can only find this from Klopp about the new system long-term. There are other quotes about bringing things forward that'd been planned for next season, but that was in relation to training (not in this piece).
Speaking to Sky Sports after the game, Klopp was asked whether it was his plan to keep Alexander-Arnold in midfield whenever possible.
“I think so. Long term, we will see what we can do,” the manager replied.
“It depends on the new players we bring in and who can play in different positions, that’s clear, but it suits him extremely well.
“I think the chance he set up for Darwin was, again, a very, very special ball to play there [and] he’s, defensively, extremely strong.”
“We have to adapt still to the formation,” Klopp admitted.
“I think in the last game we struggled a bit [behind Trent]. [But] it’s not about him, he cannot be everywhere.
In the first moment when we lose the ball, for example, in the counter-press, of course he has to stay in the centre.
“That means Ibou or whoever plays that position has to cover the space behind him. We were a bit passive there in the last game.
“But apart from that, Trent played now pretty much all minutes since six, seven weeks in this super-intense period, with games every three days.
“And for that, it’s outstanding what he’s doing.”
https://www.thisisanfield.com/2023/0...-it-suits-him/
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Probably the most sensible/balanced poster on the siteOriginally posted by Exiled_red View PostWith the 2 midfield signings we have made so far I can't see us going 433, you are asking alot of the one DM, not sure Fabinho or Henderson are up to it, unless we are bringing in a new first choice DM I think we are all in on the new formation.
Hope we don't go 433. Also not sure about Trent's 'new role'. Would rather something like 3 CBs and Trent and Robbo allowed to attack out wide. 3421?? but fluid/flexible.Another MASSIVE game
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It'll surely be 3-box-3 won't it....3-2-2-3.Originally posted by Exiled_red View PostWith the 2 midfield signings we have made so far I can't see us going 433, you are asking alot of the one DM, not sure Fabinho or Henderson are up to it, unless we are bringing in a new first choice DM I think we are all in on the new formation.
Something like
Alisson
Konate
VVD
New CB/Robbo
Trent
Fabinho
Szoboszlai
Mac Allister
Salah
Gakpo
DiazThanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’
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Yep this. What we saw in the run in of last season.Originally posted by Shaggy View PostIt'll surely be 3-box-3 won't it....3-2-2-3.
Something like
Alisson
Konate
VVD
New CB/Robbo
Trent
Fabinho
Szoboszlai
Mac Allister
Salah
Gakpo
Diaz
The signings we’ve made and the targets we’re linked to point to this too..
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Well I think we'll be buying a left sided CB, and I don't agree about Trent, not as a kind auxiliary/hybrid midfielder with another 3 class acts alongside him in the middle of the park.Originally posted by Rigadon View PostI'm really not convinced with Robbo as a CB (position) and Trent as a CM (game intelligence). If that's the plan, wouldn't it make sense to sell both (big money) and buy better players for those positions?Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’
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Hope you're right and I'm very wrongOriginally posted by Shaggy View PostWell I think we'll be buying a left sided CB, and I don't agree about Trent, not as a kind auxiliary/hybrid midfielder with another 3 class acts alongside him in the middle of the park.
. I like Trent (and Robbo).
Another MASSIVE game
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Originally posted by Shaggy View PostRobbo potentially being marginalised by this potential new shape/new CB is gonna be interesting. Wonder how he'll deal with it...also Buzzo

Don’t go there
I think we may end up with a ‘horses **** horses’ approach with Robbo playing LB in the games where we can get at teams a bit more.
Robbo was flying in the las 2 games for Scotland.Modifying post.
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