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Paul.S
'Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.'
A model pro and a bloody good player. Am getting sick of defending him from abuse from other 'fans'. Just started ignoring it now because they're clearly not watching us play.
I love how this (although may not be what you're saying) comes across as though i am wrong to disagree Que sera sera.
I could reply to the rest, but I'll not be adding anything that won't send us round in circles. You must have picked me up wrong with the point above, I was just highlighting that unlike Kuyt and Lucas we wern't discussing the qualities of Alonso and disagreeing on it, but how we thought the fans treated him.
If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?
Jaysus your tedious. He got rightly criticised for sub standard performances over a long period of time, have you never criticised a player for not playing well: Cole/Dosenna/Ngog/Spearing/Keane/Konch/Pennant/Plessis etc, sure ya have and if you haven't your either deluded (no offense) or completely blinded!! Lucas got his head down and worked on his game. He's has been transformed into a shield in front of the defence and is flourishing in that role. Since he has been playing well i have said he has been playing well(for quite some time now infact). Me and i'd imagine thousands of other LFC supporters share exactly the same opinion on this particular matter.
Credit where credit is due just the same as criticism where criticism is due. He is a professional footballer and is rightly open to criticism like every other professional athlete. He got it deservedly so, he put the head down and now look at him, and rightly so is getting the plaudits.
Enough said on the matter, you seem to be taking this very personally and the nemesis comment was clearly in jest. So relax red it's all good
My discussion with Craig was tedious and I openly admitted it and told him we should knock it on the head. I asked you a simple question, wondering when you thought Lucas started playing well.
What I do remember was tedious though was a certain person polluting every possible thread moaning about how **** Lucas was...
If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?
My discussion with Craig was tedious and I openly admitted it and told him we should knock it on the head. I asked you a simple question, wondering when you thought Lucas started playing well.
What I do remember was tedious though was a certain person polluting every possible thread moaning about how **** Lucas was...
Well wasn't me pal sorry to disspoint ya. Like i said for some reason your taking this very personal. This thread was to praise Lucas and you've turned it into an argument, so lets get back to the positives of the thread
Well wasn't me pal sorry to disspoint ya. Like i said for some reason your taking this very personal. This thread was to praise Lucas and you've turned it into an argument, so lets get back to the positives of the thread
No not at all, and yes it was fully justified to describe him as an 'embarrassment', 'horrific', a 'clown'. And that wasn't that long ago.
9th October 2010:
Lucas has here for 3 seasons and watching him in a LFC shirt i get a similiar feeling to when i have very bad diarrhea
25th October 2010
If Lucas is our future i'd rather not be alive to see that
29th December 2010
Really? I can't pick one even remotely decent performance
It's good to see that Lucas has learned from this though and completely transformed his game in just a few months.
If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?
That's not to say he was brilliant in his first year or two, because he definitely wasnt. Some of the criticism was fairly on the mark, some was OTT.
His progress has been superb and he's now 10 times the player he was 2-3 years ago.
.....in your exalted opinion. He's the same excellent player he was when we first signed him. The difference is that now the scapegoat merchants have had to admit defeat and move on.
.....in your exalted opinion. He's the same excellent player he was when we first signed him. The difference is that now the scapegoat merchants have had to admit defeat and move on.
Plus ça change plus c'est la même chose
One would have to be a complete loon to suggest that Lucas is as good as he was when he first joined, and has not improved since then.
.....in your exalted opinion. He's the same excellent player he was when we first signed him. The difference is that now the scapegoat merchants have had to admit defeat and move on.
Plus ça change plus c'est la même chose
That is highly bollocks though, being fair.
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