Raheem Sterling

[The_weatherman]

£30m is a decent amount of money given his contract situation and recent form. People have been mentioning £40-50m, there is no way we'll get that, I would say probably £35m is the max we could hope for with £25-30m being more realistic. The question is do you take the money or risk losing him on a free.

We could try sorting his head out, but for that to work he need him to get a different agent, which he may not be willing to do.

There is the Euro's which should be a motivating factor but I do agree that he needs to sort out his head. Since QPR will get 20% I think we could just as well let him run the contract down.

[Doc_Piptorious]

£30m is a decent amount of money given his contract situation and recent form. People have been mentioning £40-50m, there is no way we'll get that, I would say probably £35m is the max we could hope for with £25-30m being more realistic. The question is do you take the money or risk losing him on a free.

We could try sorting his head out, but for that to work he need him to get a different agent, which he may not be willing to do.

That would be £30m minus the 20% that would be owed to QPR.

So that gives us £24m and maybe less if Sterling tried to get a loyalty pay off if he did not hand in a transfer request.

[Fosterbloke]

That would be £30m minus the 20% that would be owed to QPR.

So that gives us £24m and maybe less if Sterling tried to get a loyalty pay off if he did not hand in a transfer request.

Fine him whatever the loyalty bonus was for being disloyal during the unauthorised BBC interview.

[The_weatherman]

If he goes for free, wouldn't it go to a tribunal if he goes to another team in the PL? So we could still get a few million plus having him on a 35k through his contract. I think we hold all the aces really.

[Daffy Duck]

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Wonder what he said about Sterling- look at his reaction

Was it "Mr. Sturridge"?
Anyway it's funny as **** how Lallana, Rooney and him all casually laugh about it while Sterling looks really pissed off.

[kev776]

On current form I can't see anyone bidding more than £30m. I can't see us selling for that. Therefore he stays. Just needs to sort his head out.

Losing 65k a week should help him with that.

[BillobShaisley]

If we accepted a player plus cash deal, would the 20% sell clause on that QPR are entitled to only be on the monetary element or would we have to give them a percentage of the players perceived value as part of the deal?

Oooo, a bit like the merchant of venice. Which 20% of the player would it be? I mean if we were getting Feleini in p/xc we could just chop his hair off, but say we get Nasri or Silva, how do we do that!?! Not sure you could squeeze 20% out of toenails, wisdom teeth, appendix and tonsils?

[Fierce]

That would be £30m minus the 20% that would be owed to QPR.

So that gives us £24m and maybe less if Sterling tried to get a loyalty pay off if he did not hand in a transfer request.

I read something the other day that took into account his low wages now and the amount we'd pay over the two years remaining on his contract, vs the wages we'd have to pay his replacement and the absolute minimum we could accept to break even was £30m. Or something

Anything less than £30m and we're actually at a loss, so it would need to be significantly more than that to be worth considering

[The_weatherman]

I read something the other day that took into account his low wages now and the amount we'd pay over the two years remaining on his contract, vs the wages we'd have to pay his replacement and the absolute minimum we could accept to break even was £30m. Or something

Anything less than £30m and we're actually at a loss, so it would need to be significantly more than that to be worth considering

I saw that too, but how does that work out? If we keep him on the current contract for two years we are saving 7.8 million (given that we value him at 100k) but we might not get the best out him.

So that's 7.8 million that we are saving and then lose him on a free if he goes abroad or get maybe 5-10 million from a tribunal. That's 12.8-17.8 million we save and recoup if he doesn't go abroad, if he goes abroad we are saving only the 7.8 million.

Let's say we sell him now for 30 million we receive 24 million after paying QPR, and our accounting profit would be quite good since we signed him for about 5 million and he signed a new contract a year or two ago. Ah yes the replacement, we'd need to buy a replacement, or give Markovic and Ibe more games.

[BillobShaisley]

Not sure about those sums tbh.

£35k/week = £1.8mil yr
100k/week = £5.2mil/yr
So a total wage saving of £6.8mil
Probable fee from Tribunal, assuming he stays in the UK £5-8mil (max)

Assuming QPR get 20% we need £18.5mil now for to get the same monetary outcome as letting him leave for "free" to a EPL club. If he goes abroad the compo' will be much less.

Or get circa £40mil now and buy a striker, allowing Ibe, Markovic and Lallana to step up in the wide attacking areas. I'm not a fan of the idea of letting him rot, other than it being counter-productive, i'm not sure it would help our recruitment to be seen as that sort of club.

[Doc_Piptorious]

I read something the other day that took into account his low wages now and the amount we'd pay over the two years remaining on his contract, vs the wages we'd have to pay his replacement and the absolute minimum we could accept to break even was £30m. Or something

Anything less than £30m and we're actually at a loss, so it would need to be significantly more than that to be worth considering

Well that would also be dependent on what wages his replacement would be on, and the length of the replacement's contract etc.

An added difference maker on that front from this summer is the wages saved on Gerrard, and Johnson.

[The_weatherman]

Not sure about those sums tbh.

£35k/week = £1.8mil yr
100k/week = £5.2mil/yr
So a total wage saving of £6.8mil
Probable fee from Tribunal, assuming he stays in the UK £5-8mil (max)

Assuming QPR get 20% we need £18.5mil now for to get the same monetary outcome as letting him leave for "free" to a EPL club. If he goes abroad the compo' will be much less.

Or get circa £40mil now and buy a striker, allowing Ibe, Markovic and Lallana to step up in the wide attacking areas. I'm not a fan of the idea of letting him rot, other than it being counter-productive, i'm not sure it would help our recruitment to be seen as that sort of club.

Sorry, that's a typo You decide wheather you believe it!

But I think we could get a surprisingly high compo from a PL club but if he goes abroad it wont really matter. I agree with the last bit, I believe in us providing a good environment, players might think this is not a workplace for me.

[Shaggy]

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[Muddled]

It's a good starting offer.

[Slinky Skills]

****ing cheeky cunts. City can piss off coming in with a low ball offer, he's worth 50 mill in today's market easily so they can scoot.