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    You should all cut Mattshark some slack. His footballing opinion over the years has been, in my humblest of, one of the more forgiving. Ever since we had Hodgson, he's a changed man. And I don't blame him. Go Matt, for whichever worm that's currently occupying your sphincter, I'm very sympathetic, because in footballing talk (under Rafa at least), you were always one of the upbeat ones.

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        Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
        He was awful and he is never a CM, he played 11 long pass and while 10 where acurate, only 2 went forward, he is nothing like Alonso. He is wasted everywhere but on the bench,
        had a stinker & didn't follow Herd for the goal. Typical sauntering around doing pretty much nothing at all.

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          Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
          There's been 6 players in the history of football that Matt has rated and Lucas was indeed one of them.
          the exception proving the rule though

          i think people all expect him to be the next gerrard and he is a very different player. hes not an attacking midfielder so people need appreciate there are more things to winning a game of football than just banging goals in.

          One thing i will say though that people are right about, he needs to man up and grow a pair sometimes
          YNWA

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            Originally posted by Havors View Post
            the exception proving the rule though

            i think people all expect him to be the next gerrard and he is a very different player. hes not an attacking midfielder so people need appreciate there are more things to winning a game of football than just banging goals in.

            One thing i will say though that people are right about, he needs to man up and grow a pair sometimes
            What are the more things than banging goals in? Seems that's been LFC's problem they often win on all measures other than banging goals in.

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              Originally posted by sean_lfc View Post
              You should all cut Mattshark some slack. His footballing opinion over the years has been, in my humblest of, one of the more forgiving. Ever since we had Hodgson, he's a changed man. And I don't blame him. Go Matt, for whichever worm that's currently occupying your sphincter, I'm very sympathetic, because in footballing talk (under Rafa at least), you were always one of the upbeat ones.


              Meanwhile there's people on here who used to bleat endlessly on about getting rid of Rafa, now lauding him! It's hilarious to read some of their posts, because unlike Matt some of them don't show any respect for people who disagree with them.
              Like blood on iron

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                Originally posted by JHP View Post
                What are the more things than banging goals in? Seems that's been LFC's problem they often win on all measures other than banging goals in.
                Do i really have to answer that?? you know like players have to pass/move/defend? have to be strong/fit/mental capable?

                We never slated Lucas or Alonso for not banging goals in did we so people need get out of this mind set that Henderson should be judged on his shooting. He played very well against villa in the role of the sitting midfielder you links defence and attack. There is a LOT more to the game than just the person who finishes.

                But that aside you are completely right about why we are only 8th in the league. With a top class striker/finisher we would have been challenging for the title imho. It pains me when i think we gave newcastle £35m to buy Cisse and Ba and still have lots of change
                Last edited by Havors; 09-04-12, 12:42 PM.
                YNWA

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                  Originally posted by Havors View Post
                  Do i really have to answer that?? (
                  No it was rhetorical

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                    Originally posted by JHP View Post
                    No it was rhetorical
                    Well I was specifically talking about one player so its not that i dont agree with what you said but your post was out of context
                    Last edited by Havors; 09-04-12, 06:32 PM.
                    YNWA

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                      Originally posted by Havors View Post
                      Well I was specifically talking about one player so its not that i dont agree with what you said but your post was out of context
                      I apologise I took your statement as a general comment.

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                        Originally posted by Red_Polo View Post


                        Meanwhile there's people on here who used to bleat endlessly on about getting rid of Rafa, now lauding him! It's hilarious to read some of their posts, because unlike Matt some of them don't show any respect for people who disagree with them.
                        Aye. Matt is stubborn but he's a great fella.
                        Are we winning?

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                          Originally posted by NigelLG View Post
                          Aye. Matt is stubborn but he's a great fella.
                          Get a room
                          YNWA

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                            I was going to suggest a group hug, but if we're moving things forward which bowl am I putting my keys in?
                            Like blood on iron

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                              Originally posted by Mostar View Post
                              I thought he came around little bit. See this frame that I didn't include in my comp (got some "grilling" on Youtube that I missed the most important moment )


                              Henderson Tackle - YouTube
                              He needs to do more of that

                              Hes not and never will be a holding player but if he could use his engine to actually close people down high up the pitch he could become a useful player for me
                              Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                                Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                                He needs to do more of that

                                Hes not and never will be a holding player but if he could use his engine to actually close people down high up the pitch he could become a useful player for me
                                "Have and never will be" is a strong opinion to have. One which may very well bite you in the ass I think it will end up being his best position as he finds hit feet. (holding midfielder is different from a defensive midfielder)
                                YNWA

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