Jordan Henderson

[SB]

Glad it’s been wrapped up quickly & not gone on strike or such but his image as our captain has been tainted IMO.

[frank the tank]

The other hypocrisy in the whole thing was he still played for England despite being past his peak physically....... But surely he has retired from international football now too

[rudedog]

Imagine if he came out publicly as being gay straight after he'd signed the new contract

[Fosterbloke]

Ruben Neves
[I]
"The main factor was my family and the chance to give my family the life I have always dreamt of, that was the real reason for me.

With inflation at an all time high, it's getting harder to make £30,000 a week cover all household bills. At least now we can get cheaper fuel to help out a bit."

[Rigadon]

Why the anger. It's weird. He hasn't gone on strike. Klopp wouldn't have allowed him to travel if he was being disruptive. He's a footballer, they aren't very bright, his people got him fronting a rainbow cause, now he's taken a shed load of money. It's hardly the same as the Pope becoming a Muslim overnight.

I don’t understand the bitterness. As for the transfer, it’s the right decision for all concerned. However, I won’t be watching Hendo, Bobby, Fabinho and Gerrard next season.

[Patricks_Berger]

Does anyone think Jordan Henderson staying at Liverpool would have led to political change in Saudi Arabia?

[Rigadon]

All this Legacy tainted is nonsense, Yes he's a hypocrite/double standards but who here would turn down the money on offer? Nobody would, We all preach what's wrong in the world but nobody stays true to their word.

We’re all hypocrites.

[ronanm]

I feel the need to somewhere put on record (this place is as good and as meaningless as any) my profound disappointment with this move.

Henderson seemed to hold himself to a higher moral standard more than not just other footballers, but the rest of us.

He was a visibly present supporter of equality in all its forms, he's organised his colleagues to do more and give more to society during the pandemic.

That, to me at least, was important. It was more than purely playing for my team.

So now he's basically chucked all of that into the bin and he's taking the blood money from people who he was previously vocally critical of, at least implicitly if not explicitly. He's killed his legacy.

For what, going from being able to afford a Ferrari or two per week to maybe owning his own yacht? Or is it actually for footballing reasons?

Either way, I'm really pissed off with this.

I'm ****ed off with any player or manager going to the middle east to be the face of a sportwashing project. But with Henderson, it is much worse.

Agreed. And it's pure greed. A Liverpool captain should be unattainable, not one who goes at the thought of 3 or 4 times earnings as soon as possible.

Get that its a short career, but would've thought being a Liverpool captain and being a bit part would've outweighed cash. Many happy he's off the books but still think he cared a lot more than most.

Obviously £ driven. Player (probably) or club.. Not a good look.

And, fwiw (not £), uve just chosen to retire from international football.

[Fosterbloke]

We’re all hypocrites.

I can afford morals on £140,000 a week.

[Rigadon]

I can afford morals on £140,000 a week.

I get what you’re saying but I don’t see a price on morality. Most people would agree that fossil fuels are bad for the environment and are carcinogenic but continue to drive petrol/diesel cars. Most people would agree that there’s a great deal of animal cruelty in the production of meat but, nevertheless, continue to eat meat. Most people would agree that there are human rights issues in China and India but continue to buy electrical goods and clothes that are made in those countries. All of us would agree that the Sun newspaper and its owner are morally bankrupt but most have probably subscribed to Sky/Foxtel at some point.

Anyway, I think Henderson has been a brilliant servant and captain of our club. He also hasn’t been afraid to voice opinions on player welfare, racism, gay/lesbian issues and concerns with the last World Cup. He’s made a difference. Hopefully he’ll continue to make a difference. Good luck to him. Now’s the right time for him to leave. We get good money (more than we got for Bobby and Wijnaldum) which can be reinvested in new players.

[Fosterbloke]

Jordan Henderson

True but some people can't afford to make moral choices. They buy cage eggs, drive older cars, buy non organic produce.

Being held to ransom by monopolies isn't a criticism, we still have to participate in society.

But if you can afford to make better choices then you should be held to a higher standard.

Yes Henderson has been a good player for us but a servant? I hate that saying, he's handsomely paid to kick a sportsball and train hard.

[frank the tank]

True but some people can't afford to make moral choices. They buy cage eggs, drive older cars, buy non organic produce.

Being held to ransom by monopolies isn't a criticism, we still have to participate in society.

But if you can afford to make better choices then you should be held to a higher standard.

Yes Henderson has been a good player for us but a servant? I hate that saying, he's handsomely paid to kick a sportsball and train hard.

The greenest car that you can have is the one that you already own. Henderson probably has an electric car and thinks he is helping the environment not realising that mining the lithium has caused us all to be roasting our bollocks off here. Then he goes and takes the oil cash.

****in arsehole

[Fosterbloke]

The greenest car that you can have is the one that you already own.

That's not the greenest car anyone can own though is it?

[dom9]

I get what you’re saying but I don’t see a price on morality. Most people would agree that fossil fuels are bad for the environment and are carcinogenic but continue to drive petrol/diesel cars. Most people would agree that there’s a great deal of animal cruelty in the production of meat but, nevertheless, continue to eat meat. Most people would agree that there are human rights issues in China and India but continue to buy electrical goods and clothes that are made in those countries. All of us would agree that the Sun newspaper and its owner are morally bankrupt but most have probably subscribed to Sky/Foxtel at some point.

Anyway, I think Henderson has been a brilliant servant and captain of our club. He also hasn’t been afraid to voice opinions on player welfare, racism, gay/lesbian issues and concerns with the last World Cup. He’s made a difference. Hopefully he’ll continue to make a difference. Good luck to him. Now’s the right time for him to leave. We get good money (more than we got for Bobby and Wijnaldum) which can be reinvested in new players.

It's not about whataboutism. It's about the specifics of what this individual has previously championed and stood up for.

It's a betrayal.

That, as I have already said, is what I am most ****ed off about.

[Patricks_Berger]

That's not the greenest car anyone can own though is it?

It is when you factor in the materials and energy required to manufacture a replacement. Further considerations are the rare earth metals and other minerals that need to be dug up to go into the EV batteries plus (potentially) all the coal that needs to be burnt to generate the electricity needed to run an EV.

Taking these factors into account, often keeping your current motor for longer will be the lower emission option.