Brendan Rodgers

[The_weatherman]

Think I have been hypnotised since then to forget about Downing ,

I am hoping that somehow Lovren can come good next season as don't see us moving him on

Delusional as well.

[gratziani]

Delusional as well.

Think you have to have a bit of delusion hoping every season we are going to finally win the league

[gratziani]

I think I've seen that mentioned before. It looks like Rodgers favours players from the PL, which I really don't think is a good strategy.

Saying that out of that list only one that has had a decent season is Can , so I would look at the whole buying process

[The_weatherman]

Think you have to have a bit of delusion hoping every season we are going to finally win the league

Definately, delusion and denial is a necessity for every Liverpool fan.

[Cormack74]

Think I am stuck in the dark ages I think 15 million on Allen is at least 14 million too much ,

Corrected for you

[vlahka]

Thanks to Brendan and the transfer committees total ineptitude during the transfer season, my ****house UTD friends have been quoting stuff I made back in august that we'd finish above them easily since we have more than 12 players in the squad unlike last season. And then I saw who came in. Couldn't take it back. They've been pasting it in our group chat non stop. The urge to rub my balls across their keyboards is strong. Going to go the safe bet from now on and say we'll finish 6th every season.

[dom9]

That's no one's fault but your own. Lesson learned indeed.

[Lecter]

That's no one's fault but your own. Lesson learned indeed.

Yeah ****ing stupid having United fans as friends

[vlahka]

That's no one's fault but your own. Lesson learned indeed.

Pretty much. It's the first time I've even made that statement in the last decade. Typical of me not to have learned by now.

[vonk]

I think I've seen that mentioned before. It looks like Rodgers favours players from the PL, which I really don't think is a good strategy.

Makes no sense. What's the point in this committee if you are saying Rodgers is doing some signings on his own. These "who-signed-who" ideas have come from so-called ITKs on Twitter who can clearly have no idea how our signings are done. It's totally agenda driven. If you like Rodgers then he must have signed <insert player widely considered a good 'un here>, if you don't like Rodgers then he must have signed Lovren. It's bollox. That **** Hendricks is a perfect example. According to him every poor player we've signed has been signed by Rodgers and all the others the committee. Like he would know. He slammed Rodgers a while back because the Star, yes, the Star, lazily linked us to some player. People hear what they want to hear.

[The_weatherman]

Makes no sense. What's the point in this committee if you are saying Rodgers is doing some signings on his own. These "who-signed-who" ideas have come from so-called ITKs on Twitter who can clearly have no idea how our signings are done. It's totally agenda driven. If you like Rodgers then he must have signed <insert player widely considered a good 'un here>, if you don't like Rodgers then he must have signed Lovren. It's bollox. That **** Hendricks is a perfect example. According to him every poor player we've signed has been signed by Rodgers and all the others the committee. Like he would know. He slammed Rodgers a while back because the Star, yes, the Star, lazily linked us to some player. People hear what they want to hear.

It came from someone from the Echo I think? A while ago, so far we've signed a good number of players under Rodgers and I think the majority is from the PL or have experience from the PL. It's not "agenda driven".

IIRC under Rafa, a signing from the PL was an exception, Hodgson and Kenny went British mainly like Rodgers.

Allen
Borini
Toure
Balotelli
Sturridge
Lallana
Lambert
Lovren

Can
Coutinho
Markovic
Moreno
Manquillo
Sakho

[The Birdman]

It came from someone from the Echo I think? A while ago, so far we've signed a good number of players under Rodgers and I think the majority is from the PL or have experience from the PL. It's not "agenda driven".

IIRC under Rafa, a signing from the PL was an exception, Hodgson and Kenny went British mainly like Rodgers.

Allen
Borini
Toure
Balotelli
Sturridge
Lallana
Lambert
Lovren

Can
Coutinho
Markovic
Moreno
Manquillo
Sakho

So what you're saying is if you take Allen and Borini out of the equation as 1st 2 signings from his old club, since then he's signed 6 with and 6 without PL experience.

That's hardly weighted either way is it.............?

[The_weatherman]

So what you're saying is if you take Allen and Borini out of the equation as 1st 2 signings from his old club, since then he's signed 6 with and 6 without PL experience.

That's hardly weighted either way is it.............?

This was just from memory, but yes.

Compared to our continental managers there is a clear difference I think, how many did Houllier and Rafa buy? I think the majority (good or bad) came from Europe. With the British managers I think we are getting a clear shift in recruitment and the percentage of British players and/or players who have played in England, rising. I was not saying it was good or bad, although I feel it's very poor market and it's also a smaller pool of talent then otherwise.

Want to stress, it's just a feeling, don't have time to research so probably should just have kept it shut

[Exiled_red]

This was just from memory, but yes.

Compared to our continental managers there is a clear difference I think, how many did Houllier and Rafa buy? I think the majority (good or bad) came from Europe. With the British managers I think we are getting a clear shift in recruitment and the percentage of British players and/or players who have played in England, rising. I was not saying it was good or bad, although I feel it's very poor market and it's also a smaller pool of talent then otherwise.

Want to stress, it's just a feeling, don't have time to research so probably should just have kept it shut

I think the issue is the players we are targeting that ar British based, if you look at what Man Utd did under Ferguson most of their players were brought in from overseas, but when they bought players from other PL clubs they were mostly proven quality from clubs that were competing at the top end of the table players that come to my mind: Rooney, van Persie, Yorke, Cole, Sheringham, Ferdinand, Berbatov, they were all top PL players at good PL clubs when they brought them in, the other players they signed were what they regarded as promising youngsters such as Phil Jones. I am struggling to think of too many player that they signed from the lower half of the league.

If you comapre that to the players we signed:

None of these players came from clubs in the top 6 or 7, and without being harsh I it is probably fair to say that very few of these would have been regarded as top PL players when we signed them: Mignolet, Allen, Lambert, Lallana, Lovren Downing, Carroll, Henderson, Adam, Enrique, Konchesky, Zenden, Crouch, Pennant, Bellamy, Mascherano, Benayoun, Heskey, McAllister, Xavier, Finnan, Ziege.

These players came from top clubs when we signed them (although some of them: Sturridge, Moses, Bellamy were probably unwanted by those clubs) and Cole and Toure were out of contract IIRC.
Sturridge, Cole, Kewell, Hamann (possibly I can't remember how good/bad Newcstle were at this point), Keane, Bellamy, Toure, Moses.

While I am not having a go at any of the individual players you can see there is a very different strategy in the way that we approached signing PL players compared to what Man Utd did. These lists are by no means exhaustive, and I'm not saying players from outside the top clubs are of lesser quality, I am just noting the difference in strategy as I see it, and IMO the Man Utd strategy has been much more successful that the strategy we have used. There are a variety of reasons as to why there may be different strategies but for me the idea of just picking the best player in a **** PL team that we seem to have employed for such a long time doesn't seem to work IMO.

[Lecter]

I think the issue is the players we are targeting that ar British based, if you look at what Man Utd did under Ferguson most of their players were brought in from overseas, but when they bought players from other PL clubs they were mostly proven quality from clubs that were competing at the top end of the table players that come to my mind: Rooney, van Persie, Yorke, Cole, Sheringham, Ferdinand, Berbatov, they were all top PL players at good PL clubs when they brought them in, the other players they signed were what they regarded as promising youngsters such as Phil Jones. I am struggling to think of too many player that they signed from the lower half of the league.

If you comapre that to the players we signed:

None of these players came from clubs in the top 6 or 7, and without being harsh I it is probably fair to say that very few of these would have been regarded as top PL players when we signed them: Mignolet, Allen, Lambert, Lallana, Lovren Downing, Carroll, Henderson, Adam, Enrique, Konchesky, Zenden, Crouch, Pennant, Bellamy, Mascherano, Benayoun, Heskey, McAllister, Xavier, Finnan, Ziege.

These players came from top clubs when we signed them (although some of them: Sturridge, Moses, Bellamy were probably unwanted by those clubs) and Cole and Toure were out of contract IIRC.
Sturridge, Cole, Kewell, Hamann (possibly I can't remember how good/bad Newcstle were at this point), Keane, Bellamy, Toure, Moses.

While I am not having a go at any of the individual players you can see there is a very different strategy in the way that we approached signing PL players compared to what Man Utd did. These lists are by no means exhaustive, and I'm not saying players from outside the top clubs are of lesser quality, I am just noting the difference in strategy as I see it, and IMO the Man Utd strategy has been much more successful that the strategy we have used. There are a variety of reasons as to why there may be different strategies but for me the idea of just picking the best player in a **** PL team that we seem to have employed for such a long time doesn't seem to work IMO.

Most of the players United signed from the lower half of the league were "young promosing" players

Jones, Smalling, Carrick, Zaha, Powell