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Originally posted by Cormack74 View PostI've never looked mate, I'm just passing on what he said but if it's that good then they surely wouldn't have gone 11 years without winning anything.
If they do not win the title this coming May then they will be 11 years without winning a league title, but they have not gone 11 years without any silverware.
Then again a similar comment about quality could be said about Liverpool over the past 25 years. If many of the managers and players who often got called world class were so good then how come no league title has been won in 25 years (am including this season)
The answer is quite simple though both for us and Arsenal, and it is that despite them and us having a number of good teams and managers over the years (well one manager for quite a long time in their case) there simply were teams with a mixture of better teams, better managers and more resources going for the same silverware.I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.
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In terms of ourselves, whenever we were in a position of strength, we weakened ourselves for a number of different reasons. Most annoying was being the number one ranked team in Europe. From that position we could attract any player we wanted in reason. We were let down by having the rug pulled from under us.Originally posted by Jaco_Pastorious View PostIf they do not win the title this coming May then they will be 11 years without winning a league title, but they have not gone 11 years without any silverware.
Then again a similar comment about quality could be said about Liverpool over the past 25 years. If many of the managers and players who often got called world class were so good then how come no league title has been won in 25 years (am including this season)
The answer is quite simple though both for us and Arsenal, and it is that despite them and us having a number of good teams and managers over the years (well one manager for quite a long time in their case) there simply were teams with a mixture of better teams, better managers and more resources going for the same silverware.Forwards.......
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Ok, discounting the charity shield in 2005 (or thereabouts) it was 10 years not 11.Originally posted by Jaco_Pastorious View PostIf they do not win the title this coming May then they will be 11 years without winning a league title, but they have not gone 11 years without any silverware.
I'm not entirely sure a year makes a huge material difference in this context TBH.
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Do you mean in 1990 when we last won the league?Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View PostIn terms of ourselves, whenever we were in a position of strength, we weakened ourselves for a number of different reasons. Most annoying was being the number one ranked team in Europe. From that position we could attract any player we wanted in reason. We were let down by having the rug pulled from under us.
I doubt we were at that time as we were still banned from European competitions
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Under Rafa in Europe we were the no1 ranked team.Originally posted by ChrisDR1968 View PostDo you mean in 1990 when we last won the league?
I doubt we were at that time as we were still banned from European competitions
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The highest we have been ranked in recent years was 2nd and that was for the 2004/5 season. It was therefore based on the seasons before Rafael arrived.
Sorry to piss of the bonfire with facts but I'm a little ****ing board of reading Rafael name every 3 minutes.
It's worse than the ****ing Daily Mail going on about DianaFootball without Origi is nothing
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You have a short memoryOriginally posted by ChesterDave View PostThe highest we have been ranked in recent years was 2nd and that was for the 2004/5 season. It was therefore based on the seasons before Rafael arrived.
Sorry to piss of the bonfire with facts but I'm a little ****ing board of reading Rafael name every 3 minutes.
It's worse than the ****ing Daily Mail going on about Diana
After our final, semi final and second final we were ranked first. Under Rafa.
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Originally posted by ChesterDave View PostThe benefit of an Internet message forum is that, you know, its on the Internet.
Which is an excellent resource for quick fact checking.
edit: I will concede I got my time when we were second wrong. But the point remains we have not been ranked 1
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