Brendan Rodgers

[Ams12]

He is going through a tough time but now is not the time to panic. Lets see how Jan pans out and we have lots of games to play. Finish top 6 and with the football style looking decent we can still call it progress. Finish outside the top 8 or 10 even and he could be in trouble.

I'd go with this to be fair and although i may slate BR a little recently!

Everyone sees progress in a different light...i have my reservations but my thoughts will have no direct impact on the situation regarding LFC in the present time so i'll keep them to myself for now.

[BootRoom]

Maxi, Kuyt, Bellamy all would have made a difference right now.

Also last 19 games of last season we got about 18 points I think.

They could have made a difference last season if they had played a greater part, but they were under-used, especialy Maxi, so in terms of comparing the performance between this season and last, we haven't lost any major players, yet after 19 games we're level on points with Norwich and Swansea, and only 2 points ahead of West Ham who have a game in hand. Too much is made of this 'weak squad' nonsense; we're by no means title contenders but we should be doing better.

[yamiedo]

I'd go with this to be fair and although i may slate BR a little recently!

Everyone sees progress in a different light...i have my reservations but my thoughts will have no direct impact on the situation regarding LFC in the present time so i'll keep them to myself for now.

Ach I agree with this. I'm telling myself to keep out of this part of the forum until we are on the up. All this negativity ain't my thing and besides its pretty pointess, as you said, it can have no impact on our situation.

[Mattshark]

They could have made a difference last season if they had played a greater part, but they were under-used, especialy Maxi, so in terms of comparing the performance between this season and last, we haven't lost any major players, yet after 19 games we're level on points with Norwich and Swansea, and only 2 points ahead of West Ham who have a game in hand. Too much is made of this 'weak squad' nonsense; we're by no means title contenders but we should be doing better.

Well considering our lack of goals, they are big loses, sorry but they really are.

[Fredo]

Difference was ragas stubbornness actually bore fruit. Rodgers' is making us lose games. 25 points from 19 games is beyond ****.

Bar our CL run we were dire. He started getting real results in his second season.

[Alex]

They could have made a difference last season if they had played a greater part, but they were under-used, especialy Maxi, so in terms of comparing the performance between this season and last, we haven't lost any major players, yet after 19 games we're level on points with Norwich and Swansea, and only 2 points ahead of West Ham who have a game in hand. Too much is made of this 'weak squad' nonsense; we're by no means title contenders but we should be doing better.

It's not nonsense though. We have been relying heavily on a 17 year old and. 19 year old in most games. Coupled with absolutely no DM cover and only 1 striker fit for a time, I think it's perfectly reasonable to say it.

[Rowan]

The issue with our team now is the same issue that has been there since the start of the season I.e. you can walk through our midfield practically unoppossed. The issue I have with Rodgers is that he still hasn't sorted it out and if I'm honest isn't looking like he will anytime soon.

That said I think there are positives. When we push on we can look dangerous but don't have the personnel to finish moves and there is far too much reliance on Suarez. I'd like to hope that as well as sorting out the top end of the pitch he's looking to get s Mascherano type (how we could do with him) to fill the hole in the middle.

But he deserves more time than 5 months to address things. Thoughts of sacking him now are preposterous and claims that he's a conman disrespectful in the extreme.

[Baracus]

can people stop using the whole if games were won based on possesion we would win the league by a distance. Its a fallacy. BBC did one 2-3 weeks back. We were 3rd or 4th. Utd were top they had played more passes and completed them more and by a distance too.

[BigChief]

The following is from an Interview the Anfield Wrap conducted with Darren Burgess (the old conditioning coach)



The bit at the end of Rodgers plays the way he think regardless of the opposition is stupid and something that needs to change asap.

Its the structure Pep and the new bloke at Barca use.

[danperkins]

Still not sure on Rogers, like the philosophy he wants to impose and the way he views the game, but there are flaws in his plan.

IMO, and i must stress 'IMO'... i think he has been too rigid in his approach. He has come in to a club and has forced his strict system on the players without bending. We can see that certain players, especially at the back just aren't comfortable with tippy tappy passes around our 18 yard box. Inevitably we panic and we lose possession. Sometimes you just have to get the ball the **** out of dodge... unless you are Barca.

The most alarming thing for me is our defence. IMO individually we have quite a good defence..so why isn't it working? We concede space horribly in our own half. When teams press us we **** bricks. The match against Fulham we looked so impressive because Lucas and Gerrard weren't challenged or put under pressure whatsoever, it was a stroll. All our passing and possession is in the wrong areas and is not effecting the game where it matters.

As for the pressing! Well it is non existent. Our midfield has got serious problems! Stoke showed us a perfect example tonight of how to press. Work rate,commitment and fight. A lot of our players have none of these. We lack any sort of balls and spirit when we go behind too, i don't know about anyone else but when Stoke went 2-1 up i never thought we would get back into the game.

We over rate and over hype our players, especially our youngsters. Shelvey,Suso & Sterling have a long long way to go. In truth Sterling is the only one that has shown that he is ready for a first team spot and even he has looked exhausted and ineffective in the last 5 games or so.

Rogers inherited a bad squad, Kenny really ****ed us up. Rogers has tried to get rid of the sub standard dross that is clear and nobody needs to stress that these things take time, but how long? For me,it's more about progression. At the end of the season and after two transfer windows we will see exactly how we have progressed. It's hard trying to be patient when there really isn't too much of an improvement than previous regimes. Different styles but no real improvement.

No longer a top team, no longer can we attract the worlds best but we still have some semblance of a draw because of our name and our history. Even that's starting to diminish with each faltering season. January is massive,Sturridge is decent but for ****s sake we're going to need to hell of alot more than Daniel Sturridge to get our of this rot and progress with some consistency.

Sorry for the length of this,i'm fairly pissed off but trying to post with bit of balance and diplomacy but i can completely understand people's frustration and their critiscism of Rogers. Doesn't fill me with much confidence when i look at a manager that stands quiet with his hands folded or in his pockets when his team is losing. IMO it's not exactly the demeanor a manager should have when an under performing team look to the sideline for some inspiration. Rogers looked a beaten figure tonight, has looked like that a few times this season, i'm not saying that translates throughout the team but it doesn't look good.

Always for me the very least a LFC side can do even if they aren't playing well, is fight and work hard. Too many times we have been absolutely gutless and that is completely unacceptable.

[Fredo]

The issue with our team now is the same issue that has been there since the start of the season I.e. you can walk through our midfield practically unoppossed. The issue I have with Rodgers is that he still hasn't sorted it out and if I'm honest isn't looking like he will anytime soon.

That said I think there are positives. When we push on we can look dangerous but don't have the personnel to finish moves and there is far too much reliance on Suarez. I'd like to hope that as well as sorting out the top end of the pitch he's looking to get s Mascherano type (how we could do with him) to fill the hole in the middle.

But he deserves more time than 5 months to address things. Thoughts of sacking him now are preposterous and claims that he's a conman disrespectful in the extreme.

Think we need someone to sit with Lucas but the key is to finish off our chances and then, dictate the game by controlling the ball. It was the same principle under Rafa but the emphasis was on pressing and compacting the play. We took a good two years to apply his tactics well. I also remember that we were ****e away from home and teams were scoring easily against us.

[el matador]

Bar our CL run we were dire. He started getting real results in his second season.

Difference is that he had done it at the highest level so you could trust him to get it right eventually and the fact that we had some truly inspiring results just enhanced that in the eyes of the fans.

What exactly has Rodgers done to give us hope that next season will be better.

[malg]

We can't keep sacking managers,that doesn't work. But sadly keeping faith in something that's not working also doesn't work. We need to move on from Rodgers and get experience in,who I really have not got a clue,other than hoping Rafa would come back.

[chadrtc]

The following is from an Interview the Anfield Wrap conducted with Darren Burgess (the old conditioning coach)



The bit at the end of Rodgers plays the way he think regardless of the opposition is stupid and something that needs to change asap.

But ironically, I seem to remember one of the sticks that was constantly used to beat Rafa was the fact that he worried too much about the opposition, instead of what we were doing.

... which was nonsense then and remains so now.

[ChesterDave]

can people stop using the whole if games were won based on possesion we would win the league by a distance. Its a fallacy. BBC did one 2-3 weeks back. We were 3rd or 4th. Utd were top they had played more passes and completed them more and by a distance too.

The BBC are diabolical at counting possesion. One game they had up outnumbering the opposition on shots by 5 to 1 and managed to give us a mere 47 % of the possession compared to Sky having us a 67