Brendan Rodgers

[RichC]

I've seen this a lot too. Do miracle strikes not count as a goal now?

We've have had the rub of the green with some things this season, but we've spent many an hour on here raging at the many things we feel hard done by, so a goal is a goal. It's about time we had some luck on the officiating front.

We've scored one less than Arsenal, Manchester United and Spurs and conceded six less than Chelsea, one less than Spurs and the same as Arsenal.

Other than Manchester City who have looked decent, no other team has looked both solid and full of goals. Seven points is seven points. We're bedding in a number of new faces and whilst we're still acquiring match fitness, it will also take game time for players to gain an understanding of each other's game. Expecting us to be firing on all attacking cylinders - when Rodgers was berated last year for his gung-ho style - is probably expecting too much.

I might propose a name change to sensible for you.

Off for a shower, I feel dirty

[Muddled]

The thing is that he doesn't have much goodwill from the fans, he used up his credit last season. He's in a very fragile position and it will only take a few poor results and things will turn against him. One bad result against West Ham and already people are airing their disgruntlement. He should have been sacked last season, it's amazing that the owners continued to show faith in him. He's got a huge task trying to rectify all the problems and I don't believe he has the capability to do so.

I agree. His position was always going to be threatened if we experienced a bad spell, but one bad result and the reaction has surprised me. I can understand why FSG didn't sack Rodgers in the summer. Responsibility (or blame) was shared and a firm plan was put in place to rectify our shortfall; Screwing that plan up in August would be too short-sighted.

[chadrtc]

On a positive note, United are losing at Swansea.

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There haven't been any real calls for his head though?

Just loads of posts pointing out this is the shame ****e we saw last season. Then posts saying he will get given games it's only one defeat. Then posts saying it's the same ****e we saw last season. Etc. then people saying he will get more than one defeat, it's a new team etc.

This thread is becoming cyclicle- repeats itself every 3-4 hours.

I'm reading this ****e all day, One bloke asked the question last night. A question, not a statement. Since then lads have been arguing against something that was never suggested like we all suggested it.

[Lecter]

I believe the post asking if this break is a chance for Rodgers to plead his case or FSG to make a change is exactly that but anyway.

The doubts haven't "returned" they've never left. He was rightly or wrongly kept on in the Summer and it seems in some eyes we could get a top 4 finish this season and it still wouldn't be enough, the perceived errors or mistakes would be highlighted every time points were dropped and that's peoples prerogatives; we talk about performances when we win and get the 3 points which whilst haven't been sparkling are what it's all about - look at the Mancs for this, play badly get the points.

A good win and and going on a good run isn't going to be good enough for those that have made their mind up with Rodgers which again is fair enough it's up to them. for me he really has to produce the results this season and either make the top or be a gnats pube from getting there to get another season.

I mean I imagine there's a fair few on here that would want him gone even if we manage a top 4 finish and a good cup run.

For me, if Rodgers is going to be a success this season he needs to find a way of getting both the defence and attacking side of our games working together at the same time, he's had success with both elements but in isolation when the defence works we can't get the attacking side of things working and vice versa. Not sure if he can do it or not but either he manages it and gets what's required or he doesn't and we're looking for a new manager.

If he got top 4 then he would deserve to be kept on

I think the most important thing for Rodgers is that he doesn't go on a bad run. If he does he is going to come under severe pressure

[Lecter]

Personally with the defenders we have its never going to be out strong point. I want all out attack. I enjoyed our run and think we could do it again. Just start banging in two a game, gives you half a chance of winning.

I think it's the only way he can play

He doesn't set up sides defensively well and in order to be more attacking we have to be more open. This puts more pressure on your defenders so essentially your defenders have to be able to DEFEND

This makes the decision to prefer Lovren over Sakho even more bizarre

[RichC]

If he got top 4 then he would deserve to be kept on

I think the most important thing for Rodgers is that he doesn't go on a bad run. If he does he is going to come under severe pressure

I would agree.

[chadrtc]

I'm reading this ****e all day, One bloke asked the question last night. A question, not a statement. Since then lads have been arguing against something that was never suggested like we all suggested it.

That's really not the case at all, at least in my case. I suggest you have another read.

I think he should have gone in the summer, but he didn't... so this is where we are.

[tanner]

Cheers LVG

[Lecter]

I don't think 4-3-3 suits us either. I'd be looking at a 4-4-2 diamond.

During his time as manager I can't think of any extended period when the 4-3-3 / 4-3-2-1 system has worked for us

Yet he still insists on buying players for that system and starting the season with that system

Then he switches finds some other system that works then tears it up and looks at 4-3-3 again the next season

[meffin]

If there were no ref/lino wrong decisions, we'd have 3 points so far this season, and even that was a late winner when we never looked like scoring.

We're **** going forward and our defence is a joke- every match he is still in charge is one less chance of making the top 4 come the end of the season.

Get rid ASAP, the man is as useless as Lovren

[Muddled]

There haven't been any real calls for his head though?

I'm reading this ****e all day, One bloke asked the question last night. A question, not a statement. Since then lads have been arguing against something that was never suggested like we all suggested it.

This?

We won ugly on the previous games but today we was just ugly. Time for BR out yet?

What about these?

Sack the whopper

Do we need someone like Alan Pardew? At least he knows how to set up a team defensively

Not Rodgers imo.

Whatever about klopp, It's clear Rodgers isn't the right manager here. Delaying the inevitable imo

2 week gap could signal the ideal time to make a change.

If Brendan were my dog, I'd have him put to sleep. Seriously.

I realise it is early in the season but really want to see BR gone.

No he should just go

Sticking by my desire to see the back of Rodgers. No kneejerk, but I wish the owners would put this to bed and end this ****ing charade.

Has Klopp finished his holiday yet?

We dream of Klopp, watch FSG target Monk.

He just isn't up to the job.

Sooner he's replaced the better.

Get rid ASAP, the man is as useless as Lovren

Like I said, it's not an exact quote but to make out there aren't rumblings of 'Rodgers out' amongst the fans and we're just making things up is incorrect.

And this is not a witch hunt. The posters above are all entitled to their opinion and if people articulate why they want him gone, then fair enough.

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That's really not the case at all, at least in my case. I suggest you have another read.

I think he should have gone in the summer, but he didn't... so this is where we are.

I don't need to read it again. I saw one post last night in which one person asked something like "do we think he could be sacked in the international break." Everything else has been people arguing over when he's likely to get sacked, not whether he should be sacked after one loss. If I've missed a load of lads saying he should go now and that has prompted you and RichC to go on about it all day feel free to point them out to me.

[The_weatherman]

Results, yes. Result, no.

I can see both pros and cons for replacing a manager mid-season, but as it stands we're mirroring our rivals for fourth. Talk of sacking Rodgers now is premature and shows how finely balanced his position currently is amongst the fan base.

Definately, talking about results, but I think if come mid-term we are persisting in the same **** as we have I think there is a cause or change, of course everything could click next game, unlikely but it could happen. I have been talking about sacking him since last december so at least I'm consistent Still, results, plurally.

The problem is we have a disproportionately difficult first couple of months to the season, if we drop points away at Man Utd, Arsenal, Man City, Chelsea, Everton etc that isn't wholly unexpected so even if we do well in all our home games we are in all likelihood going to be further down the table than we would like. Because of this there is more pressure on our home games if we do badly in those that is where the pressure on Rodgers will come.

Well, losing to WH 0-3 at home is terrible, no other word for it. If he fails to get a result in the next two games I think he'll have major difficulties to turn it around. BUT like I said, everything could click over the next games so I'll not be aclling outright for his head, my lingering doubt and concerns have not diminished though, IMO we just wasted this season by sticking with him, but since we did, we need to give a fair(ish) crack.

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This?



What about these?

Like I said, it's not an exact quote but to make out there aren't rumblings of 'Rodgers out' amongst the fans and we're just making things up is incorrect.

And this is not a witch hunt. The posters above are all entitled to their opinion and if people articulate why they want him gone, then fair enough.

Yes they aren't exact quotes of "sack him now" bar one which is what I said I've not seen. I didn't make anything out, I said I haven't seen it from anybody. I skim alot of post these days, maybe others should too. Thanks for handing me my arse though