Brendan Rodgers

[McDermotX]

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2015/09...medium=twitter

Get the splinters out of your arse, Joyce !

“But they will be asking themselves why a lavishly assembled squad appears so ill-equipped to perform the basics adequately.”

Joyce concluded: “Rodgers must try something new.”

While Joyce suggests that Rodgers’ position is not under threat five games into the season, it is clear that if results continue to go against him FSG may reconsider their stance.

[5europeancups]

Nah, loads were saying he was two games from the boot for most of last season when there was little evidence to back it up. I think they'll give him the whole season.

Liverpool will fire him if we are not in the top 5 at Christmas. this would give the new man a chance to already make an imapct.

[marcus50bucks]

Our system is all over the place to the extent we are now playing with a false manager

[Buzzo]

So 92% or about 18,000 of just under 20,000 votes want him gone on the poll in that article.

Obvs FSG are in the 8%.

[poobear]

Pinched from elsewhere, scarily accurate

This brings me to the biggest problem of all - we have so little foundation now. There's no base to build off. Under Houllier we always knew we wanted to be strong defensively and play on the counter attack. Under Rafa we always knew we wanted to control the game through our organisation and pressing. Right now all we're doing is bouncing between trying to control space in some games (more through numbers than coordination and structure I might add) to trying to dominate possession (without much intent) to somewhere in the middle where we don't really do anything. There's no clear strength; we're not good defensively, we're not good at counter attacking, we're not good at opening up space through ball circulation, we're not good at building out from the back, we're not good at pressing, we're not good at playing through lines, we're not good at overloading, we're not good at direct football, we're not good at targeting weaknesses, we're not good at set pieces. There's no area we as a team can rely on.

[tanner]

Pinched from elsewhere, scarily accurate

This brings me to the biggest problem of all - we have so little foundation now. There's no base to build off. Under Houllier we always knew we wanted to be strong defensively and play on the counter attack. Under Rafa we always knew we wanted to control the game through our organisation and pressing. Right now all we're doing is bouncing between trying to control space in some games (more through numbers than coordination and structure I might add) to trying to dominate possession (without much intent) to somewhere in the middle where we don't really do anything. There's no clear strength; we're not good defensively, we're not good at counter attacking, we're not good at opening up space through ball circulation, we're not good at building out from the back, we're not good at pressing, we're not good at playing through lines, we're not good at overloading, we're not good at direct football, we're not good at targeting weaknesses, we're not good at set pieces. There's no area we as a team can rely on.

[Leyton388]

you know which player would have actually been really useful on Saturday?

Jonjo Shelvey..... Seriously.

Shelvey's attacking and creative qualities would have made the loss of Coutinho much less obvious.

But someone agreed to sell him to Swansea????

Don't worry though that same person kept hold of the far less talented Joe Allen???
We could be here all day talking about his rubbish decisions.

He has tried spending his way out of his mistakes and he is still failing. Amazing, really.

[Lecter]

“While Rodgers will wonder what difference buying Ashley Williams and Ryan Bertand may have made to his defence, and therefore his reign, Fenway Sports Group will be flicking onto a different page,” Joyce wrote after the Old Trafford loss.

[calvoboy]

you know which player would have actually been really useful on Saturday?

Jonjo Shelvey..... Seriously.

Shelvey's attacking and creative qualities would have made the loss of Coutinho much less obvious.

But someone agreed to sell him to Swansea????

Don't worry though that same person kept hold of the far less talented Joe Allen???
We could be here all day talking about his rubbish decisions.

He has tried spending his way out of his mistakes and he is still failing. Amazing, really.

I agree he would have been useful but you can't lay that one on Brendan. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to slag him off at the moment, without criticising him for Shelvey going:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31896808

"Swansea's Jonjo Shelvey says Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers tried to persuade him not to leave Anfield in 2013.

Midfielder Shelvey, 23, told BBC Sport Rodgers even called his dad in a last-ditch attempt to halt the move.

"I was on the way to Swansea and he told me I didn't have to go," said Shelvey, who faces his former club in the Premier League on Monday.

"He spent hours on the phone to my dad in an effort to try and get me to stay. But I had made up my mind to come."

[Lecter]

I agree he would have been useful but you can't lay that one on Brendan. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to slag him off at the moment, without criticising him for Shelvey going:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31896808

"Swansea's Jonjo Shelvey says Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers tried to persuade him not to leave Anfield in 2013.

Midfielder Shelvey, 23, told BBC Sport Rodgers even called his dad in a last-ditch attempt to halt the move.

"I was on the way to Swansea and he told me I didn't have to go," said Shelvey, who faces his former club in the Premier League on Monday.

"He spent hours on the phone to my dad in an effort to try and get me to stay. But I had made up my mind to come."

Why did we accept the bid then??

[calvoboy]

Why did we accept the bid then??

Because the player had made clear that he wanted to go, and wasn't the kind of "vital to the side" player that you force to stay if they're unhappy.

[Leyton388]

I agree he would have been useful but you can't lay that one on Brendan. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to slag him off at the moment, without criticising him for Shelvey going:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31896808

"Swansea's Jonjo Shelvey says Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers tried to persuade him not to leave Anfield in 2013.

Midfielder Shelvey, 23, told BBC Sport Rodgers even called his dad in a last-ditch attempt to halt the move.

"I was on the way to Swansea and he told me I didn't have to go," said Shelvey, who faces his former club in the Premier League on Monday.

"He spent hours on the phone to my dad in an effort to try and get me to stay. But I had made up my mind to come."

I seem to remember seeing an interview with Shelvey where he said he was at home after getting back from training when his agent called him and said Swansea had made a bid and lfc had excepted it . He did say it was out of the blue but as soon as lfc accepted the bid he knew he had to go.

Either way I was genuinely gutted he was allowed to leave and baffled at the same time.

[Mark79]

Shelvey?

How many times over the past 2 seasons has anyone watched Liverpool and honestly thought, "what we're really missing here, is Shelvey"

Can't say it popped into my head on Saturday either.

[G]

He was going nowhere with us. It's regular football with Swansea that's brought him on so he wouldn't be the player he is now if he'd stayed. Not that I rate him much anyway so can't really see how he'd have helped.

[Chris]

If he was here he'd be getting berated for being slow, Hollywood and a stupid tackler because he's still all of those things. He's decent but we need better whether you think Joe Allen is ****, scum, a lowlife or whatever.