Brendan Rodgers

[gratziani]

The problem that keeps arising is we spend 25 million on a player like Lallana then play him as wingback , or a winger when his most productive spell as a player is a number ten type player.

It seems that Coutinho / Lallana and Firmino are the same type of players by all accounts.

We bring in Ings and then play him as a LW in a 4-3-3 which leaves Benteke isolated from both sides as the people playing there are new to the position.

Does the manager keep buying players and then think they all should be able to play in a multitude of positions.

We see it with Gerrard in previous years , Henderson getting pushed to the right to play wingback. Now we have Clyne being pushed to wingback and Can back to centre back.

It just seems so haphazard to me , soon as anything goes wrong at the back he changes the midfield and attacking players around to try and cover our frailties.

All of us have watched football for years and surely getting a settled back four is the first thing you implement instead of being in your 4th year and changing to three different formations in the first six weeks of the season.

[Fredo]

The problem that keeps arising is we spend 25 million on a player like Lallana then play him as wingback , or a winger when his most productive spell as a player is a number ten type player.

It seems that Coutinho / Lallana and Firmino are the same type of players by all accounts.

We bring in Ings and then play him as a LW in a 4-3-3 which leaves Benteke isolated from both sides as the people playing there are new to the position.

Does the manager keep buying players and then think they all should be able to play in a multitude of positions.

We see it with Gerrard in previous years , Henderson getting pushed to the right to play wingback. Now we have Clyne being pushed to wingback and Can back to centre back.

It just seems so haphazard to me , soon as anything goes wrong at the back he changes the midfield and attacking players around to try and cover our frailties.

All of us have watched football for years and surely getting a settled back four is the first thing you implement instead of being in your 4th year and changing to three different formations in the first six weeks of the season.

This is not really a problem if Ings understands that he doesn't have to defend so deep. It could be argued that it's something that can work providing they work on it on the training pitch. He was thrown into that position at Old Trafford and it was obvious the was a complete lack of understanding of how to play it. Wasn't it after an international week anyway?

[Fierce]

And 35 minutes of the combined 270 that made up those 3 games were actually watchable. Go us.

Frankly I'd rather we entertained and lost that bored, toiled and won (that's as a general ideology rather than in one off games where shutting up shop is considered a tactical necessity. If it's going to be ****, tiresome fayre id as soon not watch it and spend my limited free time doing something i enjoy. And in the past year Rodgers has served up predominantly **** on toast tedium as his default. He needs to either **** it off or, you know, nothing I suppose because I'm just a dude posting on the net and have, like, ****ing zero influence in this arena.

Close your ****ing brackets you

[ntto]

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[Lecter]

What's the definition of untenable?

6-1 away to Stoke?
1-1 at home to Carlisle?

[Lecter]

Don't you think that, now with McAlliser and O'Driscoll around, explains why Rodgers's decision making is so muddled? I mean, having three heads to discuss tactics and how we should set up, means that there could be some confusion.

Can you explain whats gone on in previous seasons when those two werent not even at the club

He's been muddled since day 1

[Lecter]

This is weird alright, but boils down to Rodgers wanting to try 4-3-3 again, probably with Benteke as Graham?

If he'd have gone with two upfront I could have seen the four strikers we have as excellent pairs, one of Sturridge/Ings with Benteke/Origi.

4-3-3

Every ****ing season he does it

Every season he buys players that dont fit that system and tries to play it

[Fredo]

Can you explain whats gone on in previous seasons when those two werent not even at the club

He's been muddled since day 1

What "seasons". There was 1 really. Last year. Before that, it was progress with a consistent style of attacking, progressive football.

[Lecter]

Which brings about the point I was trying to make earlier. What if having three heads to look at things before making a decision, confuse matters even more for the manager? The committee is a prime example of muddled thinking.

I don't think will change for the better if we part company with Rodgerito. Unless there's a radical change in strategy.

I do

A good manager will play the system he wants

Rodgers supposedly had his pick of players this summer and look what we have ended up with (not a 4-3-3 system but he plays it)

Add to that his supposed purchase of Lallana last year and Lovren its mental

[The_weatherman]

4-3-3

Every ****ing season he does it

Every season he buys players that dont fit that system and tries to play it

I think we discussed it last season as well, it was painfully obvious what was going to happen

[Lecter]

What "seasons". There was 1 really. Last year. Before that, it was progress with a consistent style of attacking, progressive football.

No

Season 1 we started playing 4-3-3 with ponderous ****e football

He got Sturridge in the January and only when he took the plunge and played 2 up top did things click

Season 2 is the period he most played 2 up top but there was still elements of trying his 4-3-3 and it wasnt until he totally abandoned it that things clicked

Then last season back to 4-3-3 (or 1 up top)

Again this season the same

I think you are making excuses for the man

Its not his fault its the committees for buying the players - he bought Lallana last year when we didnt need him and Lovren ****ing do me a favour
This season hes had total control bought Firmino when we had Lallana & Coutinho, binned off Markovic (one of the few wide players we had) and signed no forwards who fit 4-3-3

Now your suggesting its not his fault its the coaching staffs He binned off the last lot - you reap what you sow

Maybe blame the tea lady as well or the groundsman

[Lecter]

Point in favour of Rodgers, even though some people will point out that Suarez was the genius which made the system click in 2013, he had the awareness to tweak that system and to make both a 442 diamond and a 433 work. In the latter, both Sturridge and Suarez alternated between playing on the wing, with great success. It does boil down to player quality in the end, both tactically and technically. Sterling, Suarez and Sturridge, all together, formed a lethal partnership and Rodgers made the system work. This is a fact.

It's not been so great since, but it could be argued that signing quality players, having all the attributes of fitting into different systems of play, are very hard to find.

I dont think it was 4-3-3 though

It was always a 4-4-2 diamond and Suarez & Sturridge just drifted wide

[Lecter]

This is not really a problem if Ings understands that he doesn't have to defend so deep. It could be argued that it's something that can work providing they work on it on the training pitch. He was thrown into that position at Old Trafford and it was obvious the was a complete lack of understanding of how to play it. Wasn't it after an international week anyway?

Ings cant play wide, Full stop end of story

Any justification for that decision is just complete ****ing horse****e

[Bender]

Ings cant play wide, Full stop end of story

Any justification for that decision is just complete ****ing horse****e

Brendan's Philosophy and Mantra ....Ings & everybody else Will play wide, Full stop end of story

[Fredo]

Wow wow wow Lecter. Why the need to be aggressive on this? Horse****e or not, it's about opinions. Yours can't be horse****e can it, cos you hold the truth.

Completely missed the point I was trying to make ffs. Hope the next boss makes unanimity.