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    The point about the other midfielders is the biggest worry, none of them are currently playing any better

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      It's a massive concern that no one is stepping up.

      I wonder if there is a massive hangover from last years failure. Gerrard certainly carried over that haunted look throughout the short world cup experience. I think the home fans at the games have also been quiet, like they still can't believe it went wrong. I know I'm not still over it so I guess I'm not the only one. Obviously Luis going & not having Sturridge plus the host of new faces has all contributed.
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        Originally posted by frank the tank View Post
        best scenario is that he is phased out in the same way that Giggs and Scholes were for Man United..... maybe take some coaching responsibilities or something....i'm not sure that is Gerrard though....i'm not sure he could handle being rotated.......it might start off okay but after a while there would be a game against a Chelsea or United where he was benched and he'd see his arse with the whole thing.....
        Originally posted by kingfunk View Post
        The old' elephant in the room comes to mind.
        I think the problem with any contract is that Gerrard will not be happy unless he is playing every game in the big comps,
        Have I missed something somewhere? Where are you getting this from?

        Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
        Still playing as well as any of our other midfielders right now, Allen & Henderson were much poorer on Saturday and offered nothing.
        What are you ****ing doing Bob? Gerrard is ****. ****. You ****ing stupid or something?
        I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
        There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet

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          If this is true it's more than fair... I have to admit i would rather see him in New York and Reus in Liverpool... We will need the money if we miss cl again...


          We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold.

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            Don't think he deserves ÂŁ180k, but any player we have on more than him better hope they perform to a level where they're worth the money....
            Forwards.......

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              Originally posted by Fierce View Post
              Have I missed something somewhere? Where are you getting this from?



              What are you ****ing doing Bob? Gerrard is ****. ****. You ****ing stupid or something?
              He isn't **** by a long shot. He isn't 180k a week of golden footy either. Or is it all black and white?


              We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold.

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                Originally posted by Fernandinho View Post
                How barca are handling xavi is how we should be handling gerrard. The odd start as well as a great calming influence to close out games
                Its just whether Steven Gerrard can accept a lesser role.

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                  in reality he would have to either accept a lesser role or go to a lesser league - like the states....

                  if he goes to another club in the top leagues, then he would need to accept a lesser role as well - like Lampard had to at Man City..... gerrard could probably go to a number of top clubs but wouldnt be a starter every week at any of them. At LFC he would still be club captain and legend.....even if he was on the bench 3 weeks out of every 5....

                  it will be interesting to see. What is a little bit disappointing is that this has come out in October. If he doesnt sign a contract this side of xmas, then it could be like a dutch oven into the new year posing question marks in the build up to every ****in game we play - most likely when we are trying to catch up and break into the top 4.....

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                    Rafa would play him every game at Napoli as he thinks Gerrard is the new Pirlo (as opposed to 'Purslow')... There has been no succession plan to replace him and as such we need to see FSG put some big money on the table to address it with someone like Reus. Worse case scenario we become like Utd who just never properly replaced Keane

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                      Originally posted by Tribute View Post
                      Rafa would play him every game at Napoli as he thinks Gerrard is the new Pirlo (as opposed to 'Purslow')... There has been no succession plan to replace him and as such we need to see FSG put some big money on the table to address it with someone like Reus. Worse case scenario we become like Utd who just never properly replaced Keane
                      IMO there is no one player who can replace him
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                        Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                        IMO there is no one player who can replace him
                        We're pretty much starting from scratch again then...

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                          Originally posted by rcasemore View Post
                          In an ideal world he'd be playing games but in rotation.

                          I don't think it would hurt him to take a break from the side but I'm not sure who you'd play in midfield at the moment, we talk about Gerrard not having the legs sadly the same can be said for Lucas, Can is a promising talent but can we rely on him for a full season and Allen is hit and miss so far this season.

                          Could we try a Can, Henderson & Coutinho/Lallana midfield 3?
                          Running round in circles already according to some.

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                            Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                            IMO there is no one player who can replace him
                            And his recent dip is the reason why we are struggling. It's a double edged sword.

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                              Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                              IMO there is no one player who can replace him


                              The game must be in a right bad state if there is nobody capable of replacing the current version of Gerrard.

                              We are not going to get a player who would replace a peak Gerrard in a like for like manner, but the current version is replaceable.

                              No way is Gerrard right now a more effective player than many of the better midfielders in the game today.

                              The big question for us is not whether or not the current Gerrard can be replaced, but rather are we capable of attracting the calibre of player we would need to bring in.
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                                Originally posted by Fernandinho View Post
                                How barca are handling xavi is how we should be handling gerrard. The odd start as well as a great calming influence to close out games
                                If we had Rakatic, Iniesta, Busquets, Mascherano and Sergi Roberto then we could afford to be doing the same thing too.

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