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    #916
    The ball is in his court now.

    Toure has been superb so far this season and Skrtel has always been a bit flakey, but now is his time to force his way back into the team. Albeit in **** circumstances.

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      #917
      He often does well when returning to the side... Fingers crossed.
      96 Never Forgotten

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        #918
        Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
        Miracle recovery for Sunday eh

        I just hope he's mentally up for it and is committed to the cause. A journalist told me a couple of weeks ago that he's been fit all along and that he and Rodgers are not talking. Not sure whether him being left out is down to that or just protecting his value in terms of his sale.

        Or maybe he really is injured
        Wouldn't be surprised if this is true. Suddenly when we really need him then he is fit again and just before the end of the window.

        Probably happen at every club that players get frozen out so it is really nothing special about it.
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        from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

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          #919
          Yesterday: not letting a player leave when he wants is a problem for the club.

          Originally posted by Arn View Post
          ...I doubt that a player will move to a club that show that you more or less don't have any chance to leave it the player for some reason want a move.

          ...

          More power to the players and it get easier to sign them...
          Today: not letting a player when he wants is not a problem for the club.

          Originally posted by Arn View Post
          Probably happen at every club that players get frozen out so it is really nothing special about it.
          .
          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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            #920
            Depends on the reason(s) to why players get frozen out. Maybe it is his own fault and maybe he deserves it.
            Stop the cyberhate


            from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

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              #921
              If it is the manager that is to blame if players get frozen out then it usually end up with the manager being sacked because he lost the dressing room.

              IF Skrtel is being frozen out then it is his own fault IMO.
              Stop the cyberhate


              from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

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                #922
                Originally posted by Arn View Post
                Depends on the reason(s) to why players get frozen out. Maybe it is his own fault and maybe he deserves it.
                It's a complex world all right.

                So let's just look at what happens when complex issues are reduced to simplicities like "maybe he deserves it".

                "He deserves it" involves making a judgment. That judgment is necessarily made from afar. Other people - for instance the player himself or, more significantly for your comment yesterday, potential signings - may see it differently, and may think the player in question doesn't "deserve it". So what is black and white isn't necessarily black and white to someone else.

                We all know this of course. But this complexity gets lost when hard-and-fast judgments (i.e. guesses) are asserted with certainty despite being based on inadequate information about the specifics and inadequate experience for contextualising it.
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                Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                  #923
                  Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                  ...this complexity gets lost when hard-and-fast judgments (i.e. guesses) are asserted with certainty despite being based on inadequate information about the specifics and inadequate experience for contextualising it.
                  And as if by magic...

                  Originally posted by Arn View Post
                  If it is the manager that is to blame if players get frozen out then it usually end up with the manager being sacked because he lost the dressing room.

                  IF Skrtel is being frozen out then it is his own fault IMO.
                  .
                  Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                    #924
                    Originally posted by Arn View Post
                    If it is the manager that is to blame if players get frozen out then it usually end up with the manager being sacked because he lost the dressing room.

                    IF Skrtel is being frozen out then it is his own fault IMO.
                    You know those sentences directly contradict each other?
                    *Except Michael, who died.

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                      #925
                      Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                      It's a complex world all right.

                      So let's just look at what happens when complex issues are reduced to simplicities like "maybe he deserves it".

                      "He deserves it" involves making a judgment. That judgment is necessarily made from afar. Other people - for instance the player himself or, more significantly for your comment yesterday, potential signings - may see it differently, and may think the player in question doesn't "deserve it". So what is black and white isn't necessarily black and white to someone else.

                      We all know this of course. But this complexity gets lost when hard-and-fast judgments (i.e. guesses) are asserted with certainty despite being based on inadequate information about the specifics and inadequate experience for contextualising it.
                      In short, Arnish

                      Every manager and player need to learn it. I'm the only one that can learn them so I will earn millions
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                      from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

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                        #926
                        Arn, it's rarely how you say things, it's much more what you're saying.

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                        Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                          #927
                          Originally posted by Alex View Post
                          You know those sentences directly contradict each other?
                          Don't you think that the rest of the squad will know who is to blame when a player get frozen out?
                          Stop the cyberhate


                          from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

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                            #928
                            I dont know. We dont even know if its true to be honest. Do we?
                            *Except Michael, who died.

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                              #929
                              Originally posted by Arn View Post
                              Don't you think that the rest of the squad will know who is to blame when a player get frozen out?
                              That rather assumes that a/ there is a black and white guilt/no guilt allocation possible and b/ our entire squad shares a brain (or at least point of view).
                              "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                              -- William Blake

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                                #930
                                Originally posted by Alex View Post
                                You know those sentences directly contradict each other?


                                Originally posted by Alex View Post
                                I dont know. We dont even know if its true to be honest. Do we?


                                Originally posted by dww View Post
                                That rather assumes that a/ there is a black and white guilt/no guilt allocation possible and b/ our entire squad shares a brain (or at least point of view).
                                .
                                Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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