Brendan Rodgers

[G]

We spent 100m twice now under FSG and both times the most expensive players bought with it were largely "premier league proven". They were also largely muck. We don't need more of the same just get good players.

[Maxiedge]

that's so spot on, it's scary

[Vermilion]

Not sure what you're trying to say? So you think he should definitely go as there is stability around the club and he has no excuses?

No not saying that, just pointing out that it's different circumstances to when those managers left, and that BR has had a decent and stable base to build from, just helping fans decide is all i'm doing.

But for the record, i've already stated i'd take Klopp, if not then stick, and that's mainly on the basis that he's available now, and wont be if BR fails next season, and i favoured him over BR when hired.

If Klopp got hired by another club tomorrow, i'd proably be in the give BR another season camp, or would take some persuading that another manager was a better option.

imo. A club like LFC, the players should know that the managers word is final, he. is. their. boss. almost untouchable, so continuity is important, so long as you get the choice right in the first place.

It's all very difficult to judge isn't it.

[McDermotX]

No, I'm not feeling under any pressure. Other than the pressure any manager would feel when managing an exceptional group of players at a club of this quality. This meeting has been scheduled for months, and I've no problem with either Tom, John or Mike, they are great guys and hugely successful men, but more than that, it is their quality as human beings that I really admire.

Outstanding

[ntto]

We spent 100m twice now under FSG and both times the most expensive players bought with it were largely "premier league proven". They were also largely muck. We don't need more of the same just get good players.

is the correct answer.

Could somebody else get more out of this group of players than Brendan. Have we a better squad then Palace or Villa who both comfortably beat us? Yes.

[Maxiedge]

No not saying that, just pointing out that it's different circumstances to when those managers left, and that BR has had a decent and stable base to build from, just helping fans decide is all i'm doing.

But for the record, i've already stated i'd take Klopp, if not then stick, and that's mainly on the basis that he's available now, and wont be if BR fails next season, and i favoured him over BR when hired.

If Klopp got hired by another club tomorrow, i'd proably be in the give BR another season camp, or would take some persuading that another manager was a better option.

imo. A club like LFC, the players should know that the managers word is final, he. is. their. boss. almost untouchable, so continuity is important, so long as you get the choice right in the first place.

It's all very difficult to judge isn't it.

It is I still want my list of the players we've signed and who's been the main instigator for each one

[dww]

Whatever happened to judging each player on his merits? I hate all this "let's go for Prem proven" or whatever black and white avenue they seem to want to pursue. Just get the best players we can get, how difficult can it be?

I definitely agree with the first part, but with one caveat. That being that sometimes players from either much lower PL teams or foreign leagues require more of a period of adaptation. If we need players to 'hit the ground running' the best bets are likely those players at top half PL teams.

I think one of the problems is that around half of all transfers are seen as failures in their first season at least, even for clubs renowned for good recruitment. Our mistakes in recent times have been more costly I think because of strategic errors and it is really hard to tell whether the problem lies in poorly thought through plans, bad execution, bad luck or a mixture of all three. The only people with the information to analyse the situation properly are within the club.

[Buzzo]

It is I still want my list of the players we've signed and who's been the main instigator for each one

I wonder who would fess up to Lovren?

'I distinctly remember you saying........'

[Shaggy]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/11617188/Liverpool-know-they-face-a-critical-summer-and-Raheem-Sterling-is-the-least-of-their-worries.html

[peekay]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...r-worries.html

How many critical summers have we had.

Every summer appears to be a critical summer.

[Muddled]

It's a decent article. However, the defeats to Hull and Crystal Palace don't particularly annoy me. Sure, they hurt at the time, but the team had just lost their second semi-final of the season and had nothing left to fight for.

The way we lost to Aston Villa still grates me and perhaps you could question Rodgers' failure to motivate the team for their final few games. The performances in the Champions League I could put down to Rodgers' inexperience; How long did Ferguson have before he started to turn it on in the Champions League?

The number of changes last summer was counter-productive combined with a handful of them being poor as well as not replacing Suarez sufficiently. This resulted in a poor start which was soon rectified (possibly not quick enough, but I guess a formation change doesn't happen over night). Where it fell apart, was Manchester United at home when the occasion got to our players.

The more I think about the season dispassionately, the more I think Rodgers deserves another season.

[The_weatherman]

I definitely agree with the first part, but with one caveat. That being that sometimes players from either much lower PL teams or foreign leagues require more of a period of adaptation. If we need players to 'hit the ground running' the best bets are likely those players at top half PL teams.

I think one of the problems is that around half of all transfers are seen as failures in their first season at least, even for clubs renowned for good recruitment. Our mistakes in recent times have been more costly I think because of strategic errors and it is really hard to tell whether the problem lies in poorly thought through plans, bad execution, bad luck or a mixture of all three. The only people with the information to analyse the situation properly are within the club.

Which new signings did hit the ground running this season though? I can think of Costa, Fabregas, Tadic, Alderweireld, Mane off the top of my head, Lallana very likely would have as well IMO if not for injury. I think top half PL players are not a better bet than good players from other leagues, they'll be more expensive though you can bet on that.

[The s man]

It's this random approach to buying players like aspas Alberto markovic lovren lambert balotelli- the list goes on.

Song going to West Ham on loan! Song while not world class would have been a good addition on loan, if West Ham can get that loan deal done then why not Liverpool.

Others players like mane at Southampton cost pennies but yet we never or very rarely get this type of deal done ?
Moussa sissoko again not saying he is too bracket because he ain't, but come on if Newcastle can pull that cheap off then where are Liverpool looking and why can we not get this type of deal done?
Sakho & Valencia at West Ham are other players that have been good for the price better then borini & lambert etc.
Shane long has even done more than any of our front line, not that long should be at the club.
Bertrand the left back at Southampton - not close to world class but what a deal that could have been.
The selection process the scouting and then execution of getting the deals done at Liverpool or the worst in the premiership.
If Liverpool do not have a system then followed by aggressive proactive scouts then lending itself to the club being a smooth effective machine at then going after players then we are in trouble

[Muddled]

If we'd have bought any of those players listed, the majority of the forum would have been up in arms.

[Chris]

Our transfers may not have worked or whatever but it doesnt mean horrendous players like Alex Song or Enner Valencia were the answer! The latter especially has been pitiful bar a good long shot v Hull!